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Prop. 8 Exit Polling of African-Americans Way Off, Experts Say


A new study on California’s Proposition 8 voting trends released Tuesday found that far fewer African-Americans voted to pass the gay marriage ban than the 70% suggested by exit polling and concluded that race was not the most significant factor affecting people’s vote for or against marriage equality.

After conducting in-depth analysis of election returns from five key California counties and using census data to estimate the racial makeup of the voters in those counties, researchers found that between 57% and 59% of African-Americans voted in favor of Proposition 8, which amended the state's constitution to prohibit same-sex marriage.

"This is a far cry from the [National Exit Poll] estimate,” said Kenneth Sherrill of Hunter College, one of the lead authors of the study.

Sherrill also noted that four pre-election polls put black support for the antigay ballot initiative anywhere between 41% and 58%. “While that’s quite a range, none venture above 58%,” he said. “On this basis alone, the NEP estimate of 70% would appear to be an outlier.”

A comparison of the Prop. 8 data with that of polling after the Knight Initiative, a 2000 measure that prohibited gay marriage in California by statute (rather than constitutional amendment), showed overall movement toward support of marriage equality across almost every demographic group “with the only holdouts being Republicans, conservatives, and those born before World War II,” said Patrick Egan of New York University, another lead author of the report. “Although Proposition 8 was victorious, I think the real story is that California voters have nevertheless shifted dramatically toward support for same-sex marriage.” In fact, the study found support for marriage equality increasing in nearly every demographic group by about one percent each year since 2000.

Egan and Sherrill also concluded that age, religiosity, party identification, and ideology had more of an effect on whether voters backed Prop. 8 than any other factors. For instance, the rate of support for the initiative among African Americans and whites was nearly the same for those who attended church services regularly.

Perhaps surprisingly, the study also revealed that partisanship and ideology trumped the fact of knowing someone who is openly LGBT. About two-thirds of the state’s self-identified conservatives knew someone who was gay and about 4 out of five of them voted for the measure – the same exact ratio of conservatives who voted for Prop. 8 but didn’t know an openly LGBT person. Republicans demonstrated a similar pattern, with about four out of five of them voting to pass the ban regardless of whether they knew anyone who was out or not.

“This leads us to the conclusion that at least in terms of marriage equality, opposition to our rights isn’t personal, it’s ideological and partisan,” Sherrill said. Though he called the resistance among Republicans and conservatives "implacable," Sherrill added, "Mitigating that opposition is the fact that California is becoming less Republican and less conservative. In fact, hard-core opposition to such things as gay marriage may be costing Republicans the support of younger voters." (Kerry Eleveld, Advocate.com)

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Reader Comments
  • Name: TeeDee
    Date posted: 1/11/2009 12:09:00 AM
    Hometown: San Luis Obispo

    Comment:

    When interracial marriage was legalized by the US Supreme Court in 1967 (Loving v. Virginia), public opinion was overwhelmingly against the ruling - something like 85% against. That was all about maintaining white supremacy, but now we have a president born of such a marriage. When the original initiative prohibiting marriage between gays passed in California in 2000, public opinion was about 65% against equality. A few short years and it's down to 52% against equality, and the fight is really all about religious supremacy. So whether we win our rights because there's really no other way to interpret the 14th amendment or because public opinion shifts a few more points in the right direction, WE WILL WIN. Religion will adapt, as it always does.

  • Name: David
    Date posted: 1/10/2009 1:36:00 AM
    Hometown: Brooklyn, NY

    Comment:

    This fixation on the African American vote misses the point. African Americans comprise 6% of the population of California. Had every single African American stayed home on Nov. 4, Prop 8 still would have passed. That's the real issue. One thing we need to ask ourselves is how many young people stayed home on election day, including young LGBT people. We need to ask ourselves why so many people voted in support of Prop 8, white, black, yellow, Republican, Democrats, whatever. And we need to ask ourselves why we dropped the ball in the no to prop 8 campaign. In other words, is is possible that the real people we have to blame are ourselves?

  • Name: Roger Burr
    Date posted: 1/9/2009 5:01:00 PM
    Hometown: Marble Hill, MO

    Comment:

    Please brothers, of ALL races and ethnic groups. We all have an opinion on this matter and each persons opinion is important. But let's keep it civil. If not, we will be doing EXACTLY what the 'christian' right-wingnuts want us to do: collapse amid internal strife. Their policy is one of 'divide and conquer'. Let's make sure they can't do it to US. Thank you.

  • Name: Justin
    Date posted: 1/9/2009 2:05:00 PM
    Hometown: Brooklyn, N.Y.

    Comment:

    Hey pedro, Like Dave, you need to get off you high horse and stop with the nonsense. Were do you get off telling blacks about discrimination. When was the the last time that Latinos admited their own racism AMIGO!?

  • Name: Justin
    Date posted: 1/9/2009 1:57:00 PM
    Hometown: Brooklyn, N.Y.

    Comment:

    Hey Dave, get off your high horse and get back down to goddamn reality. Do you really believe that blacks are the only group dening your rights? What about Whites?(republicans, Mormons, rual etc) Latinos, asians. If you don't have anything intelligent to say then SHUT UP!!!

  • Name: Justin
    Date posted: 1/9/2009 1:40:00 PM
    Hometown: Brooklyn, N.Y.

    Comment:

    So, true Tom. As for frank and his views on homophobia in the Black community? Why don't you with the racism in the LGBT community first then we can go from there.

  • Name: John G
    Date posted: 1/9/2009 10:34:00 AM
    Hometown: New York City

    Comment:

    Examined carefully, the Hunter College "study" is really a combination of tortured reasoning and wishful thinking. To obscure the central role of African American voters in the passage of Prop 8 may feel good to liberals but it contributes nothing toward finding an actionable strategy for the future. The real questions include: how much of the overwhelmingly anti-gay black vote can be persuaded otherwise? Is a better tactic to energize a broader coalition of voters who are not driven by religious beliefs? Should Obama be called on his opposition to marriage equality? Above all, what are the actions that will re-shape this debate, not just paste over the wounds with specious statistics that, even at their most optimistic, paint a pretty dismal picture of the future of gay rights in the African American community and culture? Only when marriage activists face up to the realities of what happened in California on November 4 will a viable strategy emerge.

  • Name: Dean
    Date posted: 1/8/2009 7:17:00 PM
    Hometown: Corunna, Michigan

    Comment:

    Thank you, Lawrence. I was certainly uninformed about the NEP. It's scary to think that one organization holds so much power. I also took your suggestion to heart, and downloaded the study. I still see flaws. Only 1,066 respondents? Not all respondents AA? Personally, I believe California's gay community fell victim to a sort of "Bradley Effect". I say this because, while it is believable that exit polling was flawed on Nov. 4, it is unbelievable that only the data concerning AAs was off. Frankly, it is more believable that AA respondents gave inaccurate information to pollsters before and after the election, but in their euphoria on election day, gave pollsters the truth.

  • Name: James
    Date posted: 1/8/2009 3:25:00 PM
    Hometown: Santa Ana, CA

    Comment:

    WOW John, that was impressive. You started out making a valid point, and had me on your side. I even thought about posting wtih my concurrence. Then you managed to completely change the topic - demonstrating a complete lack of understanding of the Israeli-Hamas conflict. However, at the end, I'm glad you had the introspection to conclude that you lack enlightenment. I would agree.

  • Name: John
    Date posted: 1/8/2009 2:57:00 PM
    Hometown: Rhode Island

    Comment:

    You would think that experiencing prejudice and discrimination would make one not do the same to others, but it doesn’t seem to make a difference. As a Latino who supports the rights of undocumented immigrants, I am always amazed when some African Americans support the rhetoric against undocumented immigrants even though its verbatim the rhetoric used against them (sucking up resources because they are all having babies on welfare, driving Cadillac Escalades, and predisposed to commit crime). Experience does not seem to equal enlightenment or trump fear. Whether a person is gay or not doesn’t make a difference as to whether that person - makes fun of fat people, or crosses the street to avoid a passing by a group of black people. I’m not immune either, with Israel provoking the Palestinians through isolation and starvation so they can eradicate Hamas, a democratically elected government, and brutally punishing the people who elected them - I’m starting to hate Jews.

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