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God vs. Gay


Like a colonoscopy or head lice, the word Christian is a conversation killer among LGBTs. So I will admit up front that whatever it is you're thinking right now about Christians -- hypocritical, antigay, anti-sex, anti-women, anti-choice -- you've got plenty of evidence to back you up. Let's also say, while we're still here in the first paragraph, that whatever the church or its representatives did to you -- whatever abuse, whatever violation of trust, whatever was said to make you believe that you were not a child of God in your whole beautiful queer self, whatever the silence in which you did not hear how infinitely and immeasurably God loves you -- whatever drove you out of the church is simply inexcusable. But unless our community changes the "God vs. Gays" paradigm, we will never achieve full equality. Nor will it be possible for so many of us to live out our truths. My truth, strange as it may be, is a calling to ministry. It's also the truth of a lot of fierce and beautiful gay people I know, whose stories aren't told often enough.

The big question is this: How can we engage the larger LGBT community in this struggle, especially with all the pain and rejection caused by the church? That rejection is exactly what makes it so hard for me, and most LGBT people who call themselves Christian, to explain to others why we stay. Why should we stay where we are either simply not "wanted," or openly denounced. Most varieties of Christianity still practice religion-based discrimination against same-gender loving and gender-nonconforming people in one way, shape, or form. So why bother?

We do not stay because we're naive about the poor track record of the church on queer issues. The colossal cluelessness of the church is something that LGBTs in the church have to laugh about -- in that ironic, rueful, shake-your-head-in-disbelief kind of way. We have also cried about, drank over, and raged against the bias for the last several eons. That bumper sticker that says "Jesus, save me from your followers" is something we relate to all too well. But we don't leave our home. We stay to make needed repairs.

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Reader Comments
  • Name: KariAnne
    Date posted: 4/14/2009 2:19:00 AM
    Hometown: Broomfield, CO

    Comment:

    Incredible article, Lisa. I truly admire your faith and tenacity. I believe that someday religion, society, and humanity will recognize AND appreciate the spiritual value of ALL people, take notice of their unique talents and gifts as individuals, regardless of their race, religious or spiritual beliefs, cultural background, economic status, education level, sexual orientation, gender identity or gender expression. Keep fighting the good fight. Keep the faith. We (read: religion, society and humanity) will come around.

  • Name: Jason
    Date posted: 4/12/2009 3:25:00 PM
    Hometown: Twin Cities

    Comment:

    I wish more people understood that some religious groups do NOT denounce GLBT people. Some welcome us and some are more neutral on the subject and are coming around to full inclusion. I am a gay Christian and it really irritates me when some people erroneously state that all Christians are against GLBT people. Let's be accurate in our statements and think before we speak. It really irritates me when some people erroneously state that all GLBT people are sexually promiscuous and hate religion. Both of these blanket statements are false. Please, remember to use the word some when talking about religious groups and GLBT people. We aren't all the same.

  • Name: Jason
    Date posted: 4/8/2009 8:24:00 PM
    Hometown: Phoenix

    Comment:

    This whole debate should have been settled after my last post. I guess people want to volunteer to act like an Uncle Tom on this issue, such as Michaela from Cadet. Shut up! Ok? You are going to post something that defends the reason why you are viewed as sub-human by the society in which you live. Again, shut up! You know? It is not necessary to defend Christians for the plight that you endure becausee of their opiniond and their propaganda. Ok? It only makes you look bad both to the Christians and to the majority of the GLBT community. So cut it out!

  • Name: Michaela
    Date posted: 4/6/2009 10:24:00 AM
    Hometown: Cadet

    Comment:

    Reading over all of these comments, I have to ask myself a lot of questions. One thing I don't have to ask myself about, is if I'm right in being Gay and a Christian. I'm gay, and [though at times I falter as we all do in being wholly perfect] I do my best to be a follower of God. He's not perfect, and neither am I. Sure, you may be thinking God /is/ perfect, but he's not. He tells us to not covet right? But what about him being a "jealous God"? Is that not being hypocritical, giving someone a set of rules and then not following them yourself? I think it is. Yea, I know, I'm probably taking this all out of context, but it's what I've gleaned from the Word.

  • Name: Jason
    Date posted: 4/2/2009 12:43:00 PM
    Hometown: Phoenix

    Comment:

    Gay Christians huh? I see..much like Jewish folks for Nazism or African Americans for the KKK right? It makes no sense to me why a gay person would want to adopt a "if you can't beat them join them" kind of attitude in regards to being Christian unless they have some sense of fear of the afterlife. News flash: Most, yes MOST, Chtristians truly have a problem with gay people existing. Of course, so do most Muslims and most Jewish folks but that is beside the point. Gay people are destined for Hell just for being gay in the opinion of most Christians. So again, I do not understand. Why defend Mormons and Catholics anyhow when they would much rather just have you dead? Hmmmm? I am referring to several posts made here by supposedly gay people sticking up for the Christian oppressors. Now THAT saddens me. There is no need for some gay people to act like Uncle Toms here. It is unnecessary. Ok?

  • Name: Lew Alessio
    Date posted: 3/29/2009 4:37:00 AM
    Hometown: Greene

    Comment:

    If this person wants to live in a home that hates, that is fine with me. I chose to leave the church, the church was happy with my leaving, and if the whole catholic institution were to fail, I would consider it a step forward in the human condition.

  • Name: Brad Bailey
    Date posted: 3/28/2009 3:01:00 PM
    Hometown: Fayetteville, Arkansas

    Comment:

    Hi Jon, Yes, Fayetteville is the home city of the Razorbacks. The people here are by and large more educated and more laid back than people living in other parts of the state. Come game time, the parking lot of Razorback Stadium is awash in red clad fans throwing bumper parties. And Dickson Street is still the place to go to for a good time.

  • Name: Jon
    Date posted: 3/27/2009 6:52:00 PM
    Hometown: Burbank, CA

    Comment:

    Brad Bailey, thanks for your response to my comment! Fayetteville is where the Razorbacks play, right? I spent a great weekend in those parts years ago with an ecumenical campus ministry choir from Texas A&M. The Aggies were outscored, if I remember correctly.

  • Name: Saul
    Date posted: 3/27/2009 5:12:00 PM
    Hometown: LA

    Comment:

    Mark, Religion, by its very nature, is the act of believing in things without evidence. Maybe the Mormons will suddenly change their minds and believe that God loves gay people, but that doesn't change the fact that they'd be basing that opinion on something irrational. Hell, let's start telling people that God hates straight people while we're at it. The point is, we need to be basing our beliefs about the world (and in particular sexual orientation) on what the evidence tells us. Science might be able to prove what "causes" homosexuality, but you will never hear a scientist say, "Science loves gays" or "Science hates gays" or any such nonsense. We are safer in the hands of science than we'll ever be with religion.

  • Name: Mark Van Kekerix
    Date posted: 3/27/2009 3:39:00 PM
    Hometown: Omaha, NE

    Comment:

    To Joseph from Montgomery: It saddens me that you would miss my point entirely. This is not about 'choice' - whether or not I 'chose' to be Christian or 'chose' to be gay is actually irrelevant. My point is that Christians are not the enemy; churches are not the enemy; religions are not the enemy. The enemy is hate. The fact that the Mormon church has chosen to side with the haters on GLBT issues does not mean that the Mormon faith is invalid; it means only that the leaders of the church are wrong. Joseph, I sense you have an issue with religion; perhaps you were hurt by supposedly religious people in the past. While I can't take that hurt away, I can tell you that hurting others is not what God wants us to do.

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