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Defense Spokesman Flip-Flops on DADT Discussions


Defense Department spokesman Geoff Morrell issued a statement Thursday suggesting that discussions about repealing "don't ask, don't tell" are, in fact, taking place at the Pentagon. 


"President Obama has been clear in his direction to Secretary Gates and Chairman Mullen that he is committed to repeal the 'don't ask, don't tell' policy," Morrell said. "He has also been clear that he is committed to do it in a way that is least disruptive to our troops, especially given that they have been simultaneously waging two wars for six years now. Although this will require changes to the law, the secretary and chairman are working to address the challenges associated with implementation of the president's commitment."

The comments were a 180-degree reversal of what Morrell had told reporters during a Tuesday briefing. "I do not believe there are any plans under way in this building for some expected, but not articulated, anticipation that 'don't ask, don't tell' will be repealed," Morrell said.

White House press secretary Robert Gibbs, who has been saying for weeks that President Obama is working with military leaders and Congress to change the policy, enthusiastically reported news of Morrell's change of heart during the press briefing Thursday.

Responding to a question from Air America's Ana Marie Cox about Morrell's Tuesday proclamation, Gibbs said, "If I'm not mistaken, the Pentagon did correct that statement on efforts regarding the reform on 'don't ask, don't tell.'"
 


"So there are active conversations happening now?" Cox asked.
 


"Yes. Yes," Gibbs responded.


The entire exchange between Gibbs and Cox is below:

(Editor's note: When President Truman desegregated the armed forces via executive order, he changed a military policy, not a law. The legal nature of "don't ask, don't tell" differs in that it is an actual law passed by Congress. Also, a repeal bill was introduced in the House in early March, but no piece of companion legislation has yet been introduced in the Senate.)

COX: So you had said that the president is working with the Pentagon and the Joint Chiefs of Staff on "don't ask, don't tell," but earlier this week the Pentagon said that the conversations were "initial" and that there is "no sense of any immediate developments in the offing on efforts to repeal "don't ask, don't tell.'" So I wanted to give you a chance to correct the Pentagon on that.
And I have two other questions. What other policies are there --
 


GIBBS: If you ask like that you're going to get bumped up to, like, the first row. [ Laughter ]
Let me address the first question because, if I'm not mistaken, the Pentagon did correct that statement on efforts regarding the reform on "don't ask, don't tell."
 


COX: So there are active conversations happening now?
 


GIBBS: Yes. Yes.



COX: OK. And then I wanted to know if there are any other policies that the president believes to be, as you said yesterday about "don't ask, don't tell," not in our national interest but is content to let Congress take the lead on? And second, President Truman didn't see it necessary to clear desegregation through Congress, so how is this different?
 


GIBBS: Well, I don't want to put words in your mouth, but maybe I was -- maybe I used some poor language, but the president is involved in these discussions. It was the president's commitment to overturn the policy that's not in our national interest that is the reason for these discussions and for the effort to overturn this. So I think the notion somehow -- the reason Congress is involved is the only durable and lasting way with which to overturn the policy is to do it by law. That's the --
 


COX: So when can we expect a durable policy on racial desegregation in the military, since that's never gone through Congress?
 


GIBBS: Well, I'm out of my depth as a lawyer. And I'm not exactly sure the timing of when President Truman did that, but my sense is that there were also some legal proceedings around that. Try as one may, a president can't simply whisk away standing law of the United States of America. I think that's maybe been the undercurrent of some of the conversations we've had over the past few days on Guantanamo Bay. But if you're going to change the policy, if it is the law of the land, you have to do it through an act of Congress.
 


COX: And so there's pending legislation? I didn't see any.
 


GIBBS: I don't know what's been introduced in Congress.

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Reader Comments
  • Name: Roger Burr
    Date posted: 5/22/2009 8:35:00 AM
    Hometown: Marble Hill, MO

    Comment:

    I DO believe the President is committed to repealing DADT; which will, as stated, require legislative action to become 'official'. In the interim, however, he could at LEAST issue an Executive Order to stop further discharges of LGBT personnel. The simple fact is, we are losing well educated; dedicated; highly skilled people, due PURELY to their sexual orientation. Skilled linguists and others, among them. At the same time we are enlisting convicted felons; known gang-bangers; white supremacists and others who, represent nothing more than the DREGS of society! These people would just as soon shoot their own, as the enemy. With so many African-Americans in the military, how does enlisting white supremacists ADD to 'unit cohesion'? DADT is pure BS and needs to be scrapped, NOW!

  • Name: Steve Kay
    Date posted: 5/22/2009 4:47:00 AM
    Hometown: Baltimore, MD

    Comment:

    Obama has to build a consensus. And maybe a list of homophobic generals who need to be given the 'option' to retire It is not that simple to just repeal DADT. It is a big deal I agree. Just think of what will happen, though lots of it is already true. All the small town southern bible belt boys and girls in the mil will, if they haven't already, discover that people they know and trust with their lives in real live battles are gay. And they will come home, and not listen to the houses of hatred in the name of God. And it will be the beginning of the end of power for the Southern Baptists, the Catholic church, and the so called independent christian churches of hatred. It is a big big deal. But it has to be done right, not knee jerk reaction. And Obama has to build support within the military brass as well. And DUMP out the generals who oppose gays serving their country. General Officers more interested in defending homophobia then America.

  • Name: Steve Kay
    Date posted: 5/22/2009 4:17:00 AM
    Hometown: Baltimore, MD

    Comment:

    I am really concerned. If the gay community leaves Obama, it just might be the happening that lets the maggot christians take over again. And you can then say "good by America, welcome to the Nazi Razi states of America. So please stop bitching, and realize all of this takes time. Obama's plate is full, due to the criminals who totally ran the country for 6 years. Naziism happened in Germany, it can happen here, and "Bush" is just the Americanized version of Busche, and his mentors were, Adolph and Satan. AND I WOULDN'T BE THE LEAST SURPISED THAT SOME OF THE BITCHES WE SEE AGAINST PR. OBAMA IN THE GAY PRESS BLOGS ARE NOTHING BUT A CORP OF REPUBLICAN SPIES WHO ARE PURPOSELY TRYING TO SPLIT THE GAY COMMUNITY FROM ITS BEST HOPE. PROBABLY HEADQUARTERED OUT OF LIMBAUGHS OFFICE AND THE VATICAN.

  • Name: Têtuniçois
    Date posted: 5/22/2009 3:13:00 AM
    Hometown: Nice, France

    Comment:

    Obama is more interested about terrorists in Guantanamo than about gay soldiers in the US army ! Repeal "don't ask don't tell before closing Guantanamo mister president ! Gays americans soldiers first . i have been soldiers in the french army , everybody know i was gay and there was no problem about that . It's the same in other armies in the world .

  • Name: Kerri
    Date posted: 5/22/2009 1:39:00 AM
    Hometown: Baltimore

    Comment:

    Dear Advocate editors, I'm a straight female stage manager for a Broadway touring company. A copy of The Advocate was at work, so I read several articles, including the one about Adam Lambert. I laughed out loud at the homophobic blogger quote (I paraphrase) "that god didn't create Adam and Steve and he wouldn't cast gays in "Wicked." A) Does that mean that Telsey and Co., the casting agents for "Wicked" are god? B) Hellooooo, ignorant person who wrote that, do you think the dancing in "Wicked" would be nearly as fantabulous if it were performed by only straights? American musical theater has always been hugely influenced by, written by, directed by, choreographed by, designed by, scored by and performed by members of the gay community. (Well, at least the shows I've done for the last twenty years.) To say that "god wouldn't allow that," only screams (pardon the pun?) that our country has a long, long way to go.

  • Name: Brian
    Date posted: 5/21/2009 11:27:00 PM
    Hometown: Los Angeles

    Comment:

    Obama is so obviously full of crap. I can't believe anybody takes his spokeshole seriously. He is dancing to the fundies tune, a virtual puppet. 'Yes we can' is not 'No i can't'.

  • Name: David
    Date posted: 5/21/2009 9:26:00 PM
    Hometown: Seattle

    Comment:

    What plans did they have that could be more disruptive than the continued ejection of valid and even well respected members of the military? Unless they were planning on rounding everyone up and labeling them based on sexuality before sending them back, I fail to see how any steps taken could be more "disruptive to our troops" than what is going on now.

  • Name: Mawm
    Date posted: 5/21/2009 9:09:00 PM
    Hometown: Chapel Hill

    Comment:

    Please! They had to correct the notion that there are no talks happening, because that was starting to piss off our community. They think they can keep us happy by saying talks are taking place. Delay, Delay, Delay, but pretend something is happening. This is Obama's plan on how to simultaneously deal with us, and still makes his real love interest, the fundies, happy.



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