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Cleve Jones: "We Can Do This"


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Gay activist Cleve Jones, lead organizer of the National Equality March, brought his message of a federal equality strategy to New York City on Wednesday, taking the opportunity to rebuke some of the chief criticisms of the event scheduled for next month in Washington, D.C.

Jones, a self-described “cynical old bitch,” spoke to a packed room of more than 140 people at the Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual & Transgender Community Center, where he broached concerns about the timing and finances of the march scheduled for October 10 and 11, Columbus Day weekend, a period when targeted legislators will be on holiday.

“Why are we doing it on a three-day weekend?” Jones asked. “So you can go there. Because most of you work, don’t you? You work, you go to school. Wouldn’t it be a little more difficult for you to get down there on a Tuesday, Wednesday, or Thursday as opposed to a three-day weekend?”

Even so, Jones declined to predict how many people were going to attend, noting only that the Porta Potti formula anticipated 100,000 participants, and that he believed the march would be “big.”

“I have no clue how many people are going to show up,” he said.

Jones also addressed the concern that funding for the march, which is budgeted at a slight $200,000, would pull resources from urgent election battles in Maine and Washington. He expressed confidence that the LGBT community holds the capacity to support battles on multiple fronts, and suggested that allocations were a matter of personal priorities.

“Where do people get this idea that there’s this finite, limited amount of money?” he said. “That it's only this, and this finite, limited number of volunteers and hours.”

“Even during this recession, I go out,” Jones said afterward, “and everywhere I go, I see the clubs are filled with people. Thousands and thousands of people every night, drinking high-priced drinks, spending money on their clothes. We can do this.”

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Reader Comments
  • Name: David H
    Date posted: 9/26/2009 1:25:47 PM
    Hometown: Boston, MA

    Comment:

    The idea is right, but the timing is VERY wrong. Marches on Washington are a dime a dozen. Unless they're huge, they'll get a few lines in the media, then be completely ignored by the politicians in Washington. In order to do this march right, far more time is needed to organize it correctly. It needs to be timed well so that other groups will actually agree to participate. It should not be timed when the two most important ballot question battles of the coming years are at their most critical phases. This march will sap much needed money and voluteer time from Maine and Washington state. NOTHING on the gay political agenda is more important right now. If we lose marriage equality in liberal Maine, that will embolden the right more than anything in recent years to work to roll back ALL gay rights nationwide. And if we can't even win domestic partnership in liberal Washington, we're really in trouble. These are the real gay political battles for 2009, not in DC.

  • Name: Mark Bias & Carrie West
    Date posted: 9/25/2009 6:02:28 PM
    Hometown: Tampa (GaYBOR)

    Comment:

    We believe that every step in the GLBT movement is a Very Large Step. We are activists, political and live in the deep south, but the good ol boy saying, "You are still a silly faggot" still upsets us. Yes, eventually the old bitter boys die off but we have to have equal say and rights NOW!!! We have lived with this hate all our lives. It has to stop NOW!!! Where else but in a congregate group will anything be noticed or accepted. If our fellow Gay Brothers and Sisters don't give a damn then why should the straight world want to give up its "make believe superiority" of equality with a group of homosexuals that can't even work and support the same GLBT equal rights agenda! We will be there by the bus loads from GaYBOR and all around Florida. We care for our rights to be equal. Yes, we really do care!!!! Support us in spirit, mind or in person in Equality March Washington, D.C. October 10-11th.

  • Name: Steve Click
    Date posted: 9/25/2009 2:37:04 PM
    Hometown: Atascadero, CA

    Comment:

    Dana (a he) and I (Steve) will be in Washington for the march, along with my sister who stood up for us at our California wedding in 2007. Sunday, October 11th, National Coming Out Day, is also our ninth anniversary of meeting face-to-face, after an internet/telephone/USPS romance of two months. We believe that it is at the national level that equality will come. Working piecemeal, city by city, county by county, parish by parish, borough by borough, and state by state is NOT the way to go. When we receive our US Constitutional rights across our country, everyone will be covered no matter where you live or where you travel in the US. If you can, please join us in DC, at least in spirit, and lets get the national movement going for equality for all.

  • Name: millekd
    Date posted: 9/25/2009 1:46:44 PM
    Hometown: Cincinnati

    Comment:

    You need to remember that this is not just about California or Maine, this is about Ohio, Nebraska, Idaho, Alaska and the other 44 states not listed here. If something is affected nationally, individual states will have little to no choice to follow suit. Also, remember this is about equality and rights not just marriage, yes marriage is included but that is not the single reason for this march.

  • Name: James
    Date posted: 9/25/2009 11:27:38 AM
    Hometown: Salt Lake

    Comment:

    See you in D.C!

  • Name: Clayton
    Date posted: 9/25/2009 7:32:47 AM
    Hometown: Chicago, IL

    Comment:

    I think the march is a good idea. Demanding full and equal protection under the law as described by the constitution. Period. This fight in California, I just read in another segment, is projected to cost $40 million. Again. And even if we win it won't end. How much money in Maine? We thought we had won there and it's back on the ballot. I think fighting these things at the stete level is too costly and ultimately short sited. Places like Alabama, Mississippi---please. It may take a generation but I think we should focus all resources at the federal level. If we're going to drop $40 million every other year in states like California and Maine for just one right--the right to marry, what in the world do we have to lose in fighting for full protection in Washington? I have been to many of these marches and they empower ordinary gay people to become fiercly energetic. The apathy that consumes a large part of our community is our worse enemy.

  • Name: Steve
    Date posted: 9/24/2009 8:15:02 PM
    Hometown: Los Angeles

    Comment:

    The march may serve as a "morale booster" for similarly-minded people, and if it leads to greater personal contributions to the LGBT cause, then that's great. But I think the usefulness of this endeavor is greatly over-rated. Money, time and energy would be much better spent fighting to overturn California's Prop 8 and to uphold marriage equality in Maine. I'm afraid the March on Washington will detract attention and divert money from these critical battles.

  • Name: Robert
    Date posted: 9/24/2009 3:52:23 PM
    Hometown: Jacksonville

    Comment:

    We will be there!!!! Robert, Scott and our 15 month old son Riley



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