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Orthodox Mag Condemns Gay Marriage

Orthodox rabbis are "smeared" by the impression that they accept same-sex marriage, says an Orthodox journal.


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Prominent New York City Orthodox rabbis oppose efforts to legalize same-sex marriage in New York State, and they feel “smeared” by the impression that they are willing to accept such unions, says the editor of an Orthodox publication.

Dovid G. Schwartz, editor of Zeh Journal, issued a press release saying the rabbis support “measures to distance the Orthodox Jewish communities” from elected officials and candidates who back gay marriage. He promised a survey of rabbis on the journal’s website, but Monday morning there was no survey, simply a promo saying, “Rabbis back condemning ‘same-sex marriage’ politicians ... more to follow with the help of Gd.”

Schwartz’s press release lists homosexuality as an act of “sexual immorality” along with rape and incest. On Zeh’s website he also has an open letter to New York State senators, saying, “These prohibited relationships misdirect the awesome drive of human desire and squander its life-giving power in activities that can never give rise to the birth of children in the stable context of the relationship between a husband and wife as father and mother.”

The New York assembly passed a marriage equality bill in May, and the senate is expected to vote on it before the end of the year.

Orthodox Judaism is the most conservative of the three major Jewish traditions. The most liberal, the Reform movement, supports marriage equality, while the middle-ground Conservative movement supports civil unions for gays.

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Reader Comments
  • Name: Paul
    Date posted: 11/17/2009 7:12:49 AM
    Hometown: Dallas

    Comment:

    Shouldn't that be "schmeered"?

  • Name: David Taffet
    Date posted: 11/16/2009 7:32:38 PM
    Hometown: Dallas

    Comment:

    As former president can long-time board member of my Dallas synagogue, all I can say is these rabbis can kiss my ass.

  • Name: dieter
    Date posted: 11/16/2009 6:56:30 PM
    Hometown: sacramento

    Comment:

    The advocate deletes all messages that the site moderator doesn't like...especially when they are called out on the hypocrisy of posting an article about how jews don't want gays to have equality. and when one responds negatively against those jewish people who think that. the advocate is a joke, and I believe the moderator is a monkey! now watch.THIS post will also be deleted. The advocate must be run by FOX news. The advocate is almost as big a joke as the HRC.

  • Name: Whomever
    Date posted: 11/16/2009 6:22:13 PM
    Hometown: wherever

    Comment:

    In reading the comments all of a sudden there is this bashing of Dieter. What happened to his comment? I went up and down and it appeared that the other commentors were talking to the air. Other then what the other commentors wrote I have no clue as to what Dieter said. It would have been nice if The Advocate took his comments off, that they made a comment about it.

  • Name: Ben
    Date posted: 11/16/2009 4:44:28 PM
    Hometown: NY

    Comment:

    The Levitical prohibition against homosexuality has been responsible for an untold number of attacks and deaths over thousands of years. The belief that an entire class of people should not exist is the psychological precondition for genocide. Many of the first prisoners in the concentration camps were homosexual. The Nazis targeted our community first because we were less numerous, less influential, and more widely hated than the Jews. Even within the camps, the gay inmates were discriminated against by the other inmates. And after all of this history, the Orthodox religious establishment, who of all people should know better, continues with the cruel, hateful rhetoric. Vulgar and shameful.

  • Name: Johan
    Date posted: 11/16/2009 4:26:47 PM
    Hometown: Escazu, Costa Rica

    Comment:

    It's monstrous that any gay person would wish the gas ovens on anyone. But let's consider for a moment those Palestinians who recently died so horribly in the Gaza Strip (at the hands of the JDF.) I wonder if being burned to death with white phosphorus is really that different than being gassed. I can't understand why there not more outrage about Israel's actions, since there is so much outrage about what some Jew hating nutcase might say in one of these posts?

  • Name: David
    Date posted: 11/16/2009 3:43:37 PM
    Hometown: Germany

    Comment:

    Wow! One Orthodox states that he dislikes the concept of Gay Marriage, and Dieter retaliates by wishing death by gassing on another 9 million Jews (I believe that's the number of Jews the Nazis weren't able to finish off before the were stopped). That's really balanced. I would like to remind every one (including Dieter) that Conservative and Liberal Judaism are both accepting of gay marriage, that Israel recognizes foreign same-sex marriages, and that no one, for no reason, under no circumstances, never ever, deserves to be murdered or even subjected to the treatment that my family - among millions of Jewish families all over Europe and Northern Africa - had to suffer under Nazi rule. Which was way worse than not being granted the right to file joint tax declarations. I am gay myself (and Jewish), I would love to be able to marry the man I love (as soon as I have found him), and I believe that we all will be one day. Hysterical antisemitic death wishes certainly won't help the cause.

  • Name: John
    Date posted: 11/16/2009 3:33:37 PM
    Hometown: Winnipeg

    Comment:

    To Dieter-- I sincerely hope you're a troll. Your wish that more Jews had been killed in the holocaust is racist and disgusting, not to mention illogical-- people living in the 1940's would never have conceived of gay marriage as a debated social issue. If you want bigots burned in ovens so badly, go climb in one yourself. Between this post and the one about Muslims in the military, I'm starting to reconsider reading the comments on this website. I swear, sometimes the gay community can do a damn good imitation of conservative and racist rhetoric.

  • Name: A real person who doesn't think ridiculously
    Date posted: 11/16/2009 3:26:25 PM
    Hometown: Smartville

    Comment:

    WOW. I'm sorry, but that is NOT okay. Really? More Jews should be put in ovens?!?!?!? Orthodox Jews hardly represent all Jews, you anti-Semitic creep. Yes, they're religious fanatics, just like there are in every religion. But that is NOT acceptable, what you just said. You're the hypocrite, if I may say so. Jesus fucking christ.

  • Name: ALAN
    Date posted: 11/16/2009 3:26:07 PM
    Hometown: DUNNELLON,FL

    Comment:

    It is crap like this that makes me glad that I am not jewish anymore. I am not of any of the christian faiths either. I am proud to say that I am Wiccan. The jewish and christian faiths keep wondering why they are loosing believers in their temples and churches. To me the funny part is that the religious nuts say that I am godless. This isn't true at all. I believe in polytheism. 'nuff said



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