Behar and Friends Talk Prejean, Maine

Don't worry about Iowa right now, there's nothing that Maggie Gagsondick can do about it until at least 2014.

Hey guys, I was just wondering if you were aware of this brilliant article exposing just WHAT, and from where, ol' Mags' and crew culled together their tactics to convince Maine and Cali. to vote against us. They used Focus Groups through their PR co. (Frank Schubert and Jeff Flint), and changed the public from viewing it as a "Civil Rights" issue, but to regarding it as an "Individual Rights" issue where they don't want to be bullied (using their kids as the excuse) by the views of the State! Such tactics need to be immediately confronted! Yet, i am curious how one might actually do so with even the HOPE of succeeding... *sigh* Who can fight a Campaign based upon targeted FOCUS GROUPS, anyway? http://www.365gay.com/news/schools-emerge-as-new-tactic-in-gay-marriage-votes/ But, you know what would be an awesome idea?! if a documentary film maker made an EPIC film not only about our struggles over the years, but how the public has been (and is being) manipulated to vote for inequality, despite the reasoned counter-logic! This really needs to be shown en mass, on every TV, and in every theater... Ah...if only I *were* a film-maker! ;o) 'Course, my only strong-suit is History. Guys, I just worry that Mags' might have Iowa in her sights, next!

Steven, we already have an institution of civil marriage that has absolutely nothing to do with the church. That's why it's so absurd that the church is allowed to be in on this debate in the first place. It has no effect on them whatsoever.

Change is possible - it just takes time. Every poll has shown that younger Americans are much more inclined to support gay marriage so it really is just a matter of time. The primary problems have been with ballot initiatives because you can't expect a minorities rights to be granted by the majority - especially when the minority is defined by "gasp" their sexuality. The best hope we have is to either approach the issue as civil unions with FULL and equal rights to married couples - or creating an institution of civil marriage which will take the church out of the debate. Short of that - it will take a Supreme Court decision.

We can get marriage equality to be the law of the land sooner than later if we actually did something about it, rather than letting the public decide on our civil rights for us. Enough is enough. The gay community needs to grow a pair, and quickly. Attack the opponents with the same issue that they have been using against us: children. Point out the fact that there are countless gay couples in the US currently raising children, and these children are denied critical legal protections and dignity, simply because their parents are not allowed to be legally married. Point out that their parents, on average, have to pay a ridiculously higher amount of taxes because they are not allowed to be legally married. Therefore, the anti-gay marriage people are denying these children important legal protections, dignity, respect, and money that could be used toward their education and upbringing. In short, to be against gay marriage is to be against children.

Terry, oh Terry, you listen here, "gay marriage will never be law"??. I know of several countries, including Canada, where many gays thought the same. Just never give up, keep on fighting, keep up the harassment, until their thick bigotted hides wear thin. You'll see, society is really on the up-and-up, out of this religious right-wing stench.

The apparent confusion over Obama's stated marriage position, that it be between one man one woman, I believe, stems from positions he's expressed in the past that gay couples deserve marriage rights. Maybe in a Cheney-like way; states rights and all that. Now that he's president, maybe feels he needs to shy away from that position. In his heart, I'm sure he believes in equality. I just wish he were more audacious in expressing the necessity for equality among all it's citizens.

I am glad Joy Behar has her own talk show. Her and Whoopi are my favorite on The VIEW.

Now is the time to ACT UP - By Any Means Necessary!

Love those women!