Mormons Release Mixed Stance on Gay Rights

Christopher, The church actually is not "homophobic to its fundalmentalist core". The church teaches love and acceptance of all people. It does, however, condemn homosexual activity. Perhaps you have had many hurtful experiences with members ofthe church that are homophobic. I am sorry if this happened. But do not confuse the two. Help to change it, instead. We need more people to help stop ignorant remarks and actions. The church clearly does not teach "shame" for those that do not live its "narrow" (but not "narrow view") lifestyle. They teach sorrow, hope and repentance. There are many, many people that were given this burden with which to be tested with. For some it is alcohol/drug addiction, for others it may be a severe temper. But many people successfully deal with it. If you feel that you successfully dealt with it, fine. But do not call others who also have successfully dealt with it and have repressed an innate desire wrong! That is too judgemental.

I march to the beat of my own drum, I'm LDS and (as Trina puts it) a whomosexual. I have many reasons for being a member of my church, which are all very personal. However, the church can say all they want about any issue, but in the end it is ultimately me who knows whats right for myself. If other people try telling me different, thats fine. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, so I let them speak. Live and let live. Besides If I argue its only going to add fuel to their fire. So I choose to value my own right to think, say, and do what I do the way I do. Many members may or may not already hold their suspicions about me, but I choose not to divulge my own personal business simply for the fact that I dont have to, its no one elses business to begin with anyways. As for myself, I personally support gay marriage.

WOW. Trina. Have you ever considered that these gay children that your god created are OK? Why would your god make gay children and then make them an outcast in your f-ed up religion? And I know because I was also raised mormon. And it is a cult. Im just glad I was smart enough at an early age to realize how messed up it is. And the mormon church has already taken over Utah, they should keep their a$$ out of California. The mormons think they know whats best for everyone. Well, they dont. And in Salt Lake City, we have a BIG O' GAY PRIDE DAY! Ya, theres lots of gay mormons here and they DO act upon it. Lots of married guys too. I know.

I was raised LDS. It was weird and painful. I eventually went through so-called 'reparative therapy' at the behest of the church and my parents. It's really difficult to state in words how damaging this experience was. The mormon church teaches shame to anyone who doesn't fit its narrow view of life and gay people like myself were casualties to their lunacy. That the church comes out and makes a 'softened stance' on gay people shouldn't be used to give them any credit, not until they are able to apologize for the years of abuse they heaped on many of us. I'm not so much angry anymore for what I went through but for those kids who are now going through it. The church really hasn't changed all that much. It's still homophobic to its fundamentalist core.

Hateful responses like Trina's should make it clear that Mormonism is a small-minded and fearful sect. Such archaic thinking about the validity of gay couples is one of many reasons Mormonism is a superflous and irrelevant religion. Well, any religion that agrees with Scientology (another homophobic cult) that we descended from alien life form has to be suspect.

Trina is exactly right when it comes to reason alone telling us as to who and what is mistaken. That is why we trust mainstream science to separate our reason from the factual. The American Psychiatric Association, American Academy of Pediatrics, American Psychological Association.... the list of mainstream peer reviewed research is widely available, advocating equal treatment of families headed by gay and lesbian parents. At some point in time one might want to let go of "reason" by giving full support to evidence and fact.

I'm amazed that Trina can say that the LDS church "does not harass families and individuals who choose 'alternative lifestyles'". It is working hard to deny them the same legal rights as everyone else. That sure sounds like harassment to me! If someone wants to say that being gay is wrong, or being atheist, or being Jewish, or being Catholic, then that's fine with me. But it is wrong, cruelly and immorally wrong, to deny any group equal protection under the law. There's no moral difference between voting to deny gays the right to marry, and voting to deny Jews the right to own businesses, or voting to deny blacks the right to vote.

Trina, I think God intended for families to love their children if they have them. I don't think he cares if they are female, male, or two of the same sex; just that they love the children they have. Mixed marriages in this country are not all what they should be. Heterosexual people are not what they should be, hence we have a load of foster children living in situations that are very bad with not enough heterosexuals to adopt them. Gay couples have stepped up and taken difficult cases and are raising these unwanted babies by heterosexual people who have done a terrible job of having unwanted children. So if you think God isn't pleased to have these generous SS couples to give these little ones a happy home I can't think much of your tight, unhappy religion you are all in.

It truly amazes me that supposedly educated, thinking people will continue to disparage families children who are born gay. The Medical Authorities have explained as much as they can on the subject of Gay people, and the Churches continue to keep this false understanding of what causes homosexuality. It is not a life-style, anymore than heterosexuality is. They are born this way. Our Laws in America say we are all equal as citizens, and we are or we are not. Which is it? It's time to get this subject settled once and for all time in America. And no I'm not Gay, but a person who loves justice for all.

Trina, you are an idiot. Take your bigotry and hate and burn in hell for eternity for it. Believe it or not, you and your beliefs and your church are not the judges for the world, as you obviously think they should be. (I'm sure you will try to say you are not judging, but you are.) What was your point in posting on a gay website? Just to show your ignorance and hate? I hope you enjoy hell, because the God I know would never condone treating people differently due to their inherent traits. So burn, baby, burn. Just ask me for water. You won't get it.