Drag Queens Barred From Gay Dallas Club

As a fourtynine year old gay man.I have experinced every immage in the Gay community I wanted. Muscle gay,fashiongay,now drag but I still go out as man. In today GAY CLUBS THEY ARE ALL GIRLS to me.I need real men not men wantabees. ASS for the crewsin its a waste of time no mater how you dress no cute boysSo so girls dont waste your wigs .

As a fourtynine year old gay man.I have experinced every immage in the Gay community I wanted Muscle gay,fashiongay,now drag but I still go out as man. In today GAY CLUBS THEY ARE ALL GIRLS to me.I need real men not men wantabees. ASS for the crewsin its a waste of time no mater how you dress no cute boys so girls dont waste your wigs .

After the protest last week the owner has modified the policy; he now says that if a gender non-normative person [my term] comes and talks with him, and promises to behave, he'll let them in. Imagine making people beg to custom his business! Before Stonewall it was illegal in New York State to serve alcohol to homosexuals because they were thought to not be able to control themselves. Tell me how this is any different? As for "he has a right to deny service": Dallas has a public accommodation law that covers gender identity. There is legal action underway, what amazing how many people in the Gay community just don't care. For everyone who listened to what the protesters had to say and turned around last Tuesday, there was someone else who just went on in. We have to stand up for our entire community, and I hope to see everyone who reads this and lives in the Dallas Area every Tuesday night until there's an apology!

Like the article says, the business has the right to refuse service to anyone, for any reason, and for no reason at all. By that same logic, customers themselves may choose to patronize or not any business they choose, for any reason or no reason at all. I for one will never patronize any business owned by those who have discriminatory policies, whether towards customers, their own employees, or through their association with others who have such policies and practices. Anyone who patronizes such businesses is saying they approve of the bigotry and hatred being promoted, and supporting it with their money.

I agree with the bar owner that drag queens need to be reigned in a bit. While I am one of the first to stand up for glbt rights, I've seen too much of exactly what he's seen. Drag culture is NOT a culture that everyone in the glbt community is comfortable with, nor should they be. While I've known many good drag queens, the bad outnumber the good. Most have an ego the size of Manhattan and do think that they can do no wrong. Sorry gals but being a thief, liar and obnoxious asshole don't make you the kind of person I would choose to be around. So to have one night of the week free of you would be great. Sure wish a bar here would do that.

For me, I resent the fact that he has lumped trangender women as drag queens,we/they are of 2 differnt minds. Yet he offers no reason why transgender women are a problem. Yes lots of early stage transgender women do go overboard in their ways, as MOST newly liberated persons, but nearly all do mellow out after awhile. The behavior of a few bad apples should be taken care of individually up to and including permanent ban and or even arrest.

I'm a gay man, who knows he's a MAN (with a penis) and I like OTHER men. If I'm going out to a bar and want to meet other men - I certainly don't want to go to a bar where there are WOMEN (or those who look like women). Sorry ladies (and drags) but that's just the way it is.

This is another example of hatred, stereotyping, and labeling within our own community. There are dirt bag drag queens just as there are bastard wheel chair users. The point is, we can't label all drag queens as theiving bitches, and not all wheel chair users are crotchety and all white people are not evil. Eject the individuals who cause the problems, but don't label a whole group.

I think Paul has it about right. No bar owner or patron needs to put up with jerks, that's why they have bouncers. Imagine that: apply the same standards to everyone. Make those standards clear, enforce them evenly, bounce, and if necessary, bar those individuals that just don't get it and problem solved. No discrimination, no self-hating issues, no hysteria.

I don't visit the Advocate often. I don't vist any place often, because sooner or later folks rear ugly heads and make remarks that I find totally worng and offensive. The religious right, republicans and other narrow-minded, judgemental folks really irk me. And now and then (like just now when visiting the Advoacte) I re-learn that bgioted ways are not just a right-wing mentality. Left wing liberals and gays are just as guilty. Oh where, oh where is a guy seeking some common sense to go?