Florida NBC Affiliate Airs Antigay Special

PJR -- The ultimate flaw in your "the APA is controlled by gays" argument is this: If we are indeed such a powerful group of individuals, who can sway even scientific establishment such as the APA and AMA (which control nationwide medical and psychiatric practices), and can convince them that we are normal, then why haven't we been able to influence the rest of the country to get what we ask for?

A success rate of higher than 94% isn't a standard -- it shows that evidence has been gathered by running the experiment through multiple scenarios, conditions, theories, and trials until it can be replicated to an acceptable degree in each. Condoms are considered 99.98% effective at preventing pregnancy and transmission of disease, when used properly. The drug cocktails are 99% effective for a measured duration, as the AIDS virus constantly mutates to counteract said medications. You cannot simply disregard unbiased research because it will not subjugate to your own biases.

This isn't James Dobson's Focus on the Family website, PJR. People here actually think for themselves. Not to mention the most glaring flaw in your logic: no gay person I know of has ever said he or she "chose" to be gay. Oh, I forgot. Their opinions don't count because they're immoral. Silly me.

"Facts are 1 in 3 potential success with no harm via failing is simply an EXCELLENT treatment option to consider by any standard." Now which statement is ludicrous? That in no way holds up as empirical evidence...failure from the program cannot be tracked as Exodus Int'l does no followups, short- or long-term. Seeing as how many of those who say that they've been "cured" can only give their word as proof, and that it is impossible to enter their minds to continuously monitor their thought patterns concerning sexual attractions, a 1-in-3 success rate is pratically a failure.

Typical skewed Christianist logic: comparing homosexuality to pedophilia and incest. The latter two harm both society and the individual. The former merely pisses off people like you. Like your precious theo-con buddies don't have an agenda of their own.

PJR -- Your references George Rekers' review on Exodus International's website are far from scientific acceptance. Rekers has been accused of personal bias by more than one district court judge in the cases where he was an expert witness; he's a founder of the Family Research Council and an officer at NARTH. Any claims he makes about the validity of Exodus' methods are immediately suspect, as empirical data must be taken from a neutral point of view concerning the results. Also, Alan Chambers, the president of Exodus Int'l, said in a July 2007 interview with the L.A. Times that sexual orientation "isn't a light switch that you can switch on and off."

By the way, discounting an elimination and/or reduction in same sex behaviour is an example of the gay agenda influence on the APA. Note they actually flip totally on this stance when it comes to what they still consider mental disorders like pedophilia or incest. Here, if a person still has the urge or desire to have pedophelic or incestuous relations, but overcomes them, it is considered successful treatment. This stance is even used to justify rehab of sexual predators in court! How strange then with homosexuality that same standard is ignored and flipped on it's head! The APA as organization is simple not science, but all politics!

These are professional scientists with no ulterior agenda, PJR; not pseudo-scientist wannabees cow-toing to the religious right like the ones from Exodus you quoted.

The problem with theAmerican Psychological Association is it's an institution that has been heavily influence and compromised by the gay agenda. It's obvious that if an organization under gay agenda pressure make a political statement with no supporting data that takes homosexuality off the mental disorder sheet, and do not even recognize spirituality as a factor, that you are not going to consider any treatment of homosexuality based on mental disorder and spirituality. If it's not considered a problem, you're just not going to consider any fix to the problem! The American Psychological Association of the last forty years is well known as having little to do with science and lots to do with politics, and gay agenda politics for sure, thus frankly is discounted by any cutting edge programs/treatments for homosexuality.

According to a 2009 American Psychological Association fact sheet, "All major national mental health organizations have officially expressed concerns about therapies promoted to modify sexual orientation. To date, there has been no scientifically adequate research to show that therapy aimed at changing sexual orientation is safe or effective." Major medical organizations like the American Medical Association concur. They point out that the evidence offered by conversion therapists is not published in peer reviewed journals, but rather released to the mass media and the internet; that the evidence is geared toward short term goals, with no long-term follow-up; and that the evidence does not demonstrate a change in sexual orientation, but merely a reduction in same-sex behavior.