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Whither Domestic Partnerships?
Now that marriage equality has been mandated for the Golden State, what happens to gay and lesbian Californians registered as domestic partners? Lambda Legal's Jennifer C. Pizer explains it all.
An Advocate.com exclusive posted May 16, 2008
Whither Domestic Partnerships?

Nearly 50,000 couples have registered as domestic partners in California since its DP registry opened on January 1, 2000. So now that there's marriage equality in the state, thanks to the California supreme court’s ruling Thursday, what do domestic partners and curious observers need to know? We asked Jennifer C. Pizer, senior counsel for Lambda Legal.

The Advocate : Will domestic partnerships automatically convert to marriage?
P izer: Nothing happens to those registered domestic partnerships unless the couples decide to change their legal status. California’s domestic-partner registry is open to gay and lesbian couples and heterosexual couples if one person is at least 62. There is no automatic provision that domestic partnerships will become a marriage. The registered domestic partnership law is intact and unchanged by [Thursday's] ruling, and unless and until some legislators suggest that it should be changed, it will remain as it has been.

If a same-sex couple in a domestic partnership gets married, does it change their domestic partnership status?
If you’ve been in a registered domestic partnership and you marry, your registration remains as a registration. You will have two legal statuses that are completely consistent with each other. People can have two overlapping statuses. If the couple were to break up -- which is sad -- they can go into court and the court could dissolve both statuses at once.

Which court?
The family court has the power to terminate or dissolve registered domestic partnerships and they can dissolve a marriage.

Is there any benefit to being both registered domestic partners and married?
I could imagine circumstances in which a couple might find it helpful because there are some states that have an anti-marriage recognition law that doesn’t cover domestic partnerships or civil unions. So if a couple were to travel into a state like that, there could be a benefit. But we’re not recommending people have both -- this is a technical, legal way of thinking about it.

Is there a tax difference in how domestic partners and married same-sex couples will be treated?
This spring is the first time domestic-partner couples had to file taxes according to the same rules as married heterosexual couples. Married same-sex couples will be treated under state law like married heterosexual couples.

But not federally.
Not having the federal government respect our marriages and our domestic partnerships is not made more or less complex by being married as opposed to being in a registered domestic partnership. The disconnect between state and federal law is the same either way.

Do you think that the number of couples entering into domestic partnerships will increase if the California supreme court blocks gay marriage until after the November election, when a constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage is expected on the ballot?
We don’t expect it to be blocked. If the court were going to be receptive to that, they would have paused the effect of its decision [already], and it chose not to. It seems extremely unlikely that they would be receptive to the right-wing groups’ request to delay.

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  • Name: Douglas
    Date posted: 2008-05-20 9:54 PM
    Hometown: Miami Shores

    Comment:

    Go, California. Please lead the way. We're flighting for our rights in a big way in Florida. We need advocates---please send a few dozen (and include a few good designers).


  • Name: jp
    Date posted: 2008-05-20 1:15 PM
    Hometown: issaquah, WA

    Comment:

    OK, how's this for a solution? The state gives you your "license" which entitles you to all rights and benefits of today's marriage regardless of your gender(s). It would be like going to city hall. However, for a marriage certificate, you go to your church and get it's blessing. Thus each church and/or denomination can restrict or allow its beliefs to be upheld in this certificate/blessing. I attend a church which would give me a marriage certificate which I could hang on the wall. but it is the one from the state that would give me the rights and benefits of marriage. In many countries, like Mexico, this is how it is done. So, you can go to city hall, go to a church for a ceremony (or not) and enjoy the rights of marriage. You can have one or two ceremonies depending on your desires. This allows for separation of church and state and gives the power back to the state and not the church...


  • Name: Bill
    Date posted: 2008-05-19 6:43 PM
    Hometown: Upland, CA

    Comment:

    So, if I understand your comments correctly, even if the marriage option is overturned by an election ballot initiative in November, the Domestic Partnership option may survive? So it would be another setback, but we wouldn't "lose everything".


  • Name: Annie
    Date posted: 2008-05-19 12:58 AM
    Hometown: Sydney Australia

    Comment:

    Maybe 'marriage', but, definitely, absolutely NO children,,,,that is the ONE right they forfeit for same gender benders!!!!!!! Annie


  • Name: Ken
    Date posted: 2008-05-17 1:45 PM
    Hometown: Carmel

    Comment:

    The Gov. cited that he vetoed the Mark Leno California bill twice based upon Prop. 22 which has now been deemed to be an unconstitutional entity. He further stated at the time that he thought that the matter was one for the courts to decide unlike what Mitt Roomney was saying contemporaneously in Mass. that the courts were not the place to decide marriage. This Republican doublespeak is sickening at best. Let the various churches maintain their concepts of "Holy Matrimony" and confer all of their deemed religious and holy benefits to their subscribers but let all of the citizenry have access to all of the government conferred rights and benefits which are subsidized and paid for by all through our taxes and the provision of tax subsidies and exemptions to the non-religious government institution of marriage. The churches (and the gay ones too!) should confer Holy Matrimony" but we should all have access to marriage!


  • Name: Ed Stovall
    Date posted: 2008-05-17 8:35 AM
    Hometown: Humble, Texas

    Comment:

    I find it interesting that Gov. Schwarztenagger vetoed gay marriage when it was twice passed by the freely elected by the people state legislature. Yet, the governor will not oppose the decision of the governor appointed Supreme Court. I'm not complaining, mind you, I just find it odd.


  • Name: Lewis Caroll
    Date posted: 2008-05-17 8:29 AM
    Hometown: London, England

    Comment:

    "O frabjous day! Callooh Callay!"


  • Name: Mrs. Hitava
    Date posted: 2008-05-17 2:09 AM
    Hometown: sacramento

    Comment:

    So will this effect the "gay's in the millitary"? I currently have a DP for the past year and plan on getting married to the same person...But how will it effect the military?


  • Name: Jonathan Bodack
    Date posted: 2008-05-17 12:23 AM
    Hometown: Elkins Park

    Comment:

    I'm glad gays can get married!


  • Name: Alan Scott
    Date posted: 2008-05-16 9:56 PM
    Hometown: Santa Margarita, CA

    Comment:

    That was my understanding as well, Tim. Also, according the the text of the decision, summary dissolutions of DPs are handled by the Secretary of State, while summary dissolutions of Marriages are handled by the court. Likewise, a married couple with a DP living outside California must get divorced in their current state, but have their DP dissolved in Cali.


  • Name: Tim
    Date posted: 2008-05-16 8:48 PM
    Hometown: San Francisco, CA

    Comment:

    I'm not entirely convinced this is the correct analysis. Registered domestic partners must not be "married to someone else." A court could decide the legislature intended domestic partnerships and marriages to be mutually exclusive arrangements. The better advice, in my view, is to tell people that the question is not yet resolved, but that Lambda Legal will argue that marriage and domestic partnership should be allowed to co-exist. Better to highlight the uncertainty rather than cover it up with an explanation that may turn out to be wrong.


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