
Constance Lloyd, your grandmother, was quite conservative
compared to your grandfather. Why do you think he
married her?
Because he loved her.
They did love each other romantically?
What is love but other than romantic? I
don’t think he loved her money. He
didn’t need a smoke screen at that stage. The law
against relations between men in the 1885 Criminal Law
Amendment hadn’t been passed by the time they
got married. The fact that he finally realized that he was
more attracted to men than he was to women and became
an out-and-out homosexual from probably the early
1890s onward, nobody’s going to dispute. Just
give him the benefit of having loved his wife when he
married her.
Though most people think of Oscar Wilde as homosexual,
wouldn’t the correct term to define his
sexual orientation be bisexual?
Bisexual implies that throughout his life he
indulged in both one and the other. I would say that
he was probably heterosexual up to a certain point in
his life, and then from that moment onward he became
homosexual. I think the term bisexual is probably
wrong. I think he was initially heterosexual, and then
realized that he’s been channeled down the wrong
path too long. One sees, one almost feels, in what he writes
and in his letters, that there is a sense of his
relief at a certain point in his life that he has
discovered his true sexuality.
So you wouldn’t think that references to his
romantic involvements with women, particularly
when he was young, are just to veil his true identity?
I’m not whitewashing anything. People
love things to be pigeonholed, put into compartments,
black-and-white. He was. He wasn’t. History tells us
that it has happened to many people in the same way, and I
don’t think it makes him any the less
interesting. He is the most wonderful gay icon, but
he’s flawed. He’s flawed because he did have
relationships with women in the beginning, and he
obviously had a relationship with my
grandmother—otherwise my father and my uncle
wouldn’t have been born, and I wouldn’t
be here.
That’s a good point.
There are some people who don’t really
like that. It’s uncomfortable. It’s not
a perfect gay icon. He’s a man who discovered his
true nature and then made no bones about it and
indulged in his homosexuality completely, which is
obviously what got him put into prison. If it was a
black-and-white story of Oscar just being homosexual from
the year one and concealing it and finally coming to
terms with it, it would make a much less interesting
story.
Your grandfather spent two years in prison doing hard
labor for “gross indecency.”
Isn’t it true that his homosexual acts were never
officially proved?
You’re talking about legal definitions
here, which are outside my capabilities. What is proof
of homosexuality? The fact is that a large proportion
of the witnesses were known blackmailers and rent boys who
were being paid far more than their loss of earnings, their
expenses, to give evidence. How much do you believe
their evidence? I don’t know. Oscar had
indulged in homosexual practices over a period of years
after the time of his trial. Whether or not he was
guilty of exactly those things which he was accused of
in the trial, I don’t know.
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