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07/26/08-07/28/08

Judge: Larry King’s Accused Killer Should Be Tried as Adult

Judge: Larry King’s Accused Killer Should Be Tried as Adult

A California judge ruled Thursday that 14-year-old Brandon McInerney, the accused slayer of 15-year-old gay classmate Lawrence King, will be tried as an adult. Ventura County superior court judge Douglas Daily denied a defense motion that sought to transfer the case to juvenile court on constitutional grounds. McInerney's arraignment, also scheduled for Thursday, was postponed until August 8 to permit his attorney, senior deputy public defender William Quest, to petition the appellate court for immediate review of Daily’s ruling.

According to witnesses, McInerney shot King in the head on February 12 during first period in a packed classroom at E.O. Green Junior High School in Oxnard, a largely blue-collar port city of 200,000 about 60 miles north of Los Angeles. McInerney was charged as an adult with premeditated murder with a special hate-crime allegation under Proposition 21, a controversial 2000 law enacted by ballot initiative that affords district attorneys more or less unfettered discretion to try juveniles as young as 14 as adults for certain felonies.

As Quest explained in a courtroom interview with The Advocate in June, the motion to try McInerney as a juvenile rested on the argument that charging “Brandon as an adult to result in a 51-[years]-to-life sentence [would be] cruel and unusual punishment” under the Eighth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. Quest acknowledged at the time that previous challenges to Prop 21 had failed but said none had been based on Eighth Amendment grounds.

In a telephone interview with The Advocate before the hearing, Quest said, “I think we have merit to our argument, and I think we have a legitimate basis for our argument, but it’s going to take a strong court to go against the D.A.”

At Thursday's hearing, Quest contended that if McInerney were convicted, the judge would be required to impose the 51-years-to-life sentence, and would not be permitted to take into account specific mitigating circumstances, such as “what was going on in [McInerney’s] life” or the victim’s conduct. “You are in effect neutered by the law,” Quest told the judge. Quest argued that while this might be permissible with adult defendants, it constitutes cruel and unusual punishment when applied to a juvenile.

Prior to the hearing, senior deputy district attorney Maeve Fox, who is prosecuting the case, told The Advocate that Quest’s chances of winning his motion were “slim to none,” adding the issues it raised “have all been ironed out” in previous cases.

In court, Fox said, “the law doesn’t allow murder at any age.” She contended that it would be inappropriate for the court to make any decision based on McInerney’s alleged “special circumstances” before any evidence about those circumstances, or about anything else, had even been taken in the case. Daily agreed and denied the motion, expressly holding Prop 21 constitutional.

The district attorney’s decision to charge McInerney as an adult has been controversial. “We’ve had boatloads of letters and e-mails on both sides” of the issue, Fox said. In a widely reported April letter to district attorney Greg Totten, more than 20 LGBT groups, including Lambda Legal, the National Center for Lesbian Rights, the Transgender Law Center, the Los Angeles Gay and Lesbian Center, and the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force, “call[ed] on prosecutors not to compound this tragedy with another wrong” and to “treat the suspect as a juvenile, and not as an adult.”

Fox, however, adamantly defends the decision. “Do you want [McInerney] living next door to you at 21?” she asked rhetorically in the Tuesday interview. “When you were 14, when you were 10, when you were 8,” she continued, “did you know it was wrong to kill someone? The answer inevitably is yes. And I understand that he’s 14, but for someone, at that age, to premeditate and deliberate this kind of crime and pull it off in front of their entire class I think is cause for serious alarm. And I understand that people are compassionate towards him, and I am compassionate towards him, and I don’t necessarily think he should spend the entirety of his life behind bars, but he should spend a good long time behind bars.”

Fox pointed out in a previous interview that “14- and 15-year-olds cannot receive life without the possibility of parole in California,” which means that McInerney could be freed at some point even if convicted and given the maximum sentence.

Quest sees the issue differently. “If you ask a 10-year-old, ‘Is it wrong to steal?’ typically they’ll say yes,” he said. “But...let’s say they’re at a store and they may have these urges [and] they don’t think it through, they don’t have the ability to go through a cost-benefit analysis that you do as you get older. And so it’s kind of like hot and cold cognition, and there’s a lot of research on that. If you ask them while they’re eating breakfast in a very calm situation, right or wrong, generally kids can say that. Obviously, is murder wrong? Yes. But in a hot situation . . . the emotional and physical capacity to think things [through] clearly is limited when you’re an adolescent. Therefore you have diminished culpability.”

Asked how McInerney’s having allegedly premeditated King’s murder by bringing a gun from home to school squared with notions of “hot and cold cognition,” Quest responded, “Obviously I’m going to have to defend this case if we go in adult court. And how I do that, I don’t want to get into it.... It’s going to be a difficult case within the laws that govern adults.”

On another front in the case, a hearing has been scheduled for August 11 on Quest’s bid to obtain King’s records from the school and from Casa Pacifica, a residential facility for troubled children where King was living at the time of the murder. (Peter DelVecchio, The Advocate)

Keywords:  Larry King 

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  • Name: Dr. J. Boost
    Date posted: 2009-02-19 12:29 PM
    Hometown: Hong Kong

    Comment:

    No death is not a loss. And no life should be lost over someone's sexual orientation. We do, however, accept strong reactions when a girl feels stalked or molested. And even if she shoots, we'll grant her the status of a self-defender. I am not sure how far the approaches of Larry to Brandon went - but obviously too far. Removing the stain from homosexuality and promoting understanding and tolerance, should not be mistaken for a free permit: The "coming out" is a good thing - but it is not a "liberation" into sexual anarchy. If Brandon was just 3 weeks into 14 years old, and had felt molested, his young inexperience in sexuality should tell every judge AND EVEN D.A. - unless she is a radical lesbian - that here is no "hate crime" and no adult in court, but a molested, disturbed adolescent.


  • Name: Leo
    Date posted: 2008-12-18 1:16 PM
    Hometown: San Diego CA

    Comment:

    THE ONLY CRUEL AND UNUSUAL PUNISHMENT WAS THE MURDER & DEATH OF LAWRENCE KING FOR BEING GAY!


  • Name: Christi B.
    Date posted: 2008-08-03 7:31 AM
    Hometown: Oxnard

    Comment:

    I am a Family Friend. Please think about your harsh opinions before knowing all the facts. Thank You. There is a family behind every child. Mothers and grandparents do not deserve to see some of these crude and distasteful comments. I appreciate everyones opinion but I think a comment has more impact if the vulgarity is left to a minimum. Not to mention it is just cruel and inhmane to say things of sodomy about a fourteen year old no matter his unfortunate behavior reacting to a problem he did not have the maturity to deal with..... To supporters and people with their intelligent opposing comments THANK YOU for an open mind and your thoughts on this devistating and, unfortunately for Brandon, but mostly, Larry, irreversable :( ..... Please as you read this think of our role and responsibility in society and in schools and as parents that tolerance should be taught and harrassment, of all sorts, put to a stop!!! Hoping this will not happen againg.


  • Name: John Merical
    Date posted: 2008-07-28 4:07 PM
    Hometown: sacramento

    Comment:

    Eric Houston 20, Scott Pennington 17, Barry Loukaitis 14, Evan Ramsey16, Luke Woodham 16, Michael Carneal 14. that's just 6 school shooters, tried as adults related to school shootings. Total killed, 11 students and 5 members of school staff. This does not include other adults some of the shooters killed. Nor does it include the cruel and unusual punishment inflicted on hundreds of students who have to live with the pain of the selfish acts committed for the rest of their lives. Shall we re-try them as juveniles or release them too?


  • Name: Brian
    Date posted: 2008-07-27 5:58 PM
    Hometown: Chicago

    Comment:

    I have absolutely no sympathy for Brandon. He took another life and was only too willing and happy to do it. He knew very well what was going to happen when he brought that gun to school. It turns my stomach to see SO many across the internet taking his side simply because he's a 14 year old boy. Well, gee, I used to be 14 too. The only difference is, I and most of the other kids I knew at that age knew far better than to believe killing somebody we disagreed with was in any way acceptable. Age does NOT exempt somebody from paying the price for a crime of such heinously premeditated magnitude. This was NOT an accident. If society gives this killer a slap-on-the-hand simply because he's under-age, than we might as well show unjust compassion for all the other lowlives who brandish guns or knives against other people. Murder is murder. Why are so many people lost on that?


  • Name: Bill Courson
    Date posted: 2008-07-27 8:57 AM
    Hometown: Montclair, New Jersey

    Comment:

    This is a terrible tragedy for all concerned, and serves as a horrific illustration of the degree to which gay and lesbian young people are - still - subject to daily harrassment, threats, intimidation, physical assault and in this case, murder, particularly while in school and under the care and protection of presumably responsible adults. Until society at large is prepared to extend the prinicple of equal protection of the law to all of its citizens - gay as well as straight - it mightn't be a bad idea to equip every gay, lesbian, bisexual or transgendered man, woman and child of sufficient age with a firearm and instruction in its use. If Matthew Shepard had a gun, he'd be alive today, and the murderous homopghobic scum that took his precious life would be mouldering in their graves where they belong.


  • Name: Marti
    Date posted: 2008-07-26 10:33 PM
    Hometown: San Diego

    Comment:

    What about the child he killed? Was that not cruel and unusual? They want to base it on his situation and the conduct of the victim? That makes as much sense as "She was wearing a short skirt and flirting with me, so she was asking for it." Thank you Sara and I agree with you! How dare anyone say "the conduct of the victim" what was his conduct, that he sent a valentine or he said to Brandon that he liked him? And that justifies killing this poor innocent human being? That 14 yr old killed another human being in Cold Blood, the victim is Lawrence King, not Brandon!!


  • Name: Marti
    Date posted: 2008-07-26 9:24 PM
    Hometown: San Diego

    Comment:

    Very well said! I agree with what you wrote 100 percent! I posted my opinion to 2 of my daughters back home: My opinion is he should be tried as an adult. He knew full well what he was doing when he brought the gun to school.Kids at 14 know right from wrong. Besides being a hate crime because the other student who he killed was gay is irelavant to me. The facts are that he killed this student because he was different and he supposedly came on to the boy with a 'valentine', how many valentines did you girls get when you were children from the same sex? In society we all have to contend with unwanted advances whether it be at school or out on the street.That does not give us the right to go and get a gun and kill the person just because we feel like it! Yes, he may only be 14 years of age but he knew what he was doing was wrong and he did it anyway. He is lucky that they dont kill his sorry ass with the death penalty!


  • Name: seine
    Date posted: 2008-07-26 3:18 PM
    Hometown: seattle

    Comment:

    i could care less whether or not he "deserves" to be tried as an adult or not. i'm more concerned about what kind of monster we'll be creating after he goes to prison. know this, if you do send him to prison send him FOREVER! Locking up a severely troubled 14 year old boy in one of the most brutal and dangerous environments imaginable, just to let him out decades later with only prison-based socialization all his adult life, sounds like a recipe for a sociopath if i ever heard one. and how many people really get rehabilitated in prison? i mean, really! c'mon! Either salvage him while there may still be time or do away with him for good.


  • Name: alicia banks
    Date posted: 2008-07-26 6:23 AM
    Hometown: chicago, il

    Comment:

    All children must learn that irrespective of society’s bigotry, amorality, or apathy, we are all responsible for our individual actions. Children must also learn that unwanted flirtations are a part of life. Children tease. Adults terminate. McInerney made the adult decision to perform a public execution. I have no iota of empathy for this killer who should be tried as an adult!!! May Larry’s eternal soul find peace in a superior place, where he may be free to exist and to err without being executed, just as all brutal gaybashing jocks like McInerney are exclusively free to do here on earth. Alicia Banks OUTLOOK aliciabanks.blogspot.com


  • Name: Chris J
    Date posted: 2008-07-25 11:23 PM
    Hometown: Santa Barbara

    Comment:

    Knowing the difference between right and wrong doesn't make an adult. Five year olds know the difference between right and wrong but I doubt anyone would consider trying a five year old as an adult. I don't claim to know all the qualities that make up an adult but I think one of them is the ability to fully understand the consequences of your actions. I'm not convinced a 14 year old can truly do that given the current environment in middle and high school. I think it's scary how personal feelings rather than logic can cloud people's views.


  • Name: Shawn
    Date posted: 2008-07-25 6:17 PM
    Hometown: Boston

    Comment:

    Brandon made his choice to KILL someone. Oh, boo hoo for his supposing hard life. What do you think the reaction would be if a gay student killed a straight student because of constant torment? The religious right would be out in full force, that is what would happen. I hope Brandon goes to prison for life!


  • Name: warren kirkpatrick
    Date posted: 2008-07-25 6:04 PM
    Hometown: weatherford, texas

    Comment:

    Who provided the weapon for that 14 year old to have? We, the Citizens, are the quilty ones. Too much money, too little shame, too little thinking about others, the victim had no choice in his lifestyle (probably afraid to go to the bathroom), these kids need a place to get help, they are not able to face the world when the world is not there for them. We all have a place in the world to live our lives as out "genes" tell us. There is a Korean film that has just been released in the US. It is "No Regrets" where the poor country boy meets a rich city boy and both meet the male brothel in the city. For those boys it was love and not hate that brought the story to its climax (no pun intended).


  • Name: Doug Hammerich
    Date posted: 2008-07-25 5:38 PM
    Hometown: Citrus Heights

    Comment:

    I teach 5th grade--10-11-year-olds, in a semi-ghetto neighborhood. I can testify that even kids that age know perfectly well the difference between right and wrong. And no sobbing defense lawyer will change my mind about how a 14 year old knew exactly what he was doing and what the consequences might be. Try and rehabilitate him in prison if they wish, but by all means try him as an adult.


  • Name: Chris J
    Date posted: 2008-07-25 3:06 PM
    Hometown: Santa Barbara, CA

    Comment:

    When do we get to become adults? Is it 18, when we're supposedly intelligent enough to smoke, vote and join the military, or is it when we're 21 and we're wise enough to drink? It seems like these laws try to have their cake and eat it too. There are so many decisions we consider children of 14 unable to make and yet we're so quick to throw the book at them when they commit crimes. It is a true miscarriage of justice to throw a 14 year old in jail for 51 years without any attempt at rehabilitation.


  • Name: Kelly
    Date posted: 2008-07-25 2:54 PM
    Hometown: Freehold

    Comment:

    '[C]harging “Brandon as an adult to result in a 51 [years]-to-life sentence [would be] cruel and unusual punishment”'? Really? Not half as cruel and unusual as shooting a defenseless person in the head, I'd say. When it comes to murder, 14 is most certainly NOT too young to know better. Fox is absolutely right here.


  • Name: Doug Johnson
    Date posted: 2008-07-25 2:30 PM
    Hometown: Sioux Falls, SD

    Comment:

    So, the homophobic prick was 14 years old and had an unhappy homelife. Does that make him special or is he just a homophobic prick that also had access to a gun and killed a human being? His parents should all be co-defendants and tossed in jail with him. Brandon didn't want Lawrence to approach him because he made him feel uncomfortable. He'll feel more than that when he gets his little bunny hole stretched more than a few times during his stay in the slammer.


  • Name: Ed
    Date posted: 2008-07-25 2:24 PM
    Hometown: Maui

    Comment:

    "Regardless of the circumstances"?? Then why have the provision to try as an adult in our legal system in the first place-it's there for a purpose, and the murderer has apparently satisfied the requirements in this case Same thing with hate crim provisions... "Bring Lawrence King back.."? I have yet to hear of a murder victim being "brought back"--strictly an emotionally grounded, impossible to obtain wish. McInerney has done the crime, now let's get on with the trial and punishment, if found guilty. No need to get all weepy about it, and yes, let's show our culture there actually is punishment for killing our of our own....


  • Name: Gerry Daley
    Date posted: 2008-07-25 2:17 PM
    Hometown: Boston

    Comment:

    I taught middle school for 35 years - and I am an out and proud gay man. I just finished reading this week's Newsweek cover story about this case. It is a terrible tragedy for *all* the parties involved, including the alleged murderer. I do not believe he should be tried as an adult. He was indeed taunted and pursued by Larry King. Anyone who has ever spent time working in a middle school knows this is playing with fire. Nothing justifies Larry's killing, but I do have to wonder about the right of Brandon McInereney to be just left alone. Larry King was a deeply disturbed boy and should absolutely NOT be used as a poster child for gay rights.


  • Name: Mike
    Date posted: 2008-07-25 2:04 PM
    Hometown: Chicago

    Comment:

    Regardless of the circumstances, a 14-year-old is not an adult. This is why juvenile courts were created in the first place. Trying this kid in a adult court is not justice and isn't going to do any more to bring Lawrence King back.


  • Name: Jerry
    Date posted: 2008-07-25 1:32 PM
    Hometown: Dallas

    Comment:

    His parents should be charged as well for teaching hate. When are we going to be able to just get along?


  • Name: Leo
    Date posted: 2008-07-25 12:53 PM
    Hometown: San Diego CA

    Comment:

    How about Lawrence Kings’ Life?? He has None left…… If one can kill a gay and receive a juvenile punishment (wrist slap) Can a Gay Kill a Straight and receive minimal punishment. Premeditated (Hate Crime) Murder is Murder at any age.


  • Name: Sara
    Date posted: 2008-07-25 11:37 AM
    Hometown: Carrollton, GA

    Comment:

    Are you saying that when you were 18 you did not have logical reasoning skills? Does that mean as I sit in a college class I shouldn't expect the people around me to reason that it's wrong to shoot the place up? What a load of s***! This says they don't want to try him as an adult because it would be cruel and unusual punishment. What about the child he killed? Was that not cruel and unusual? They want to base it on his situation and the conduct of the victim? That makes as much sense as "She was wearing a short skirt and flirting with me, so she was asking for it."


  • Name: Roger Burr
    Date posted: 2008-07-25 11:36 AM
    Hometown: Marble Hill, MO

    Comment:

    51 years-to-life would be 'cruel and unusual' punishment??!! There's a laugh. What about the dead victim? HE gets to spend forever in a casket, six feet under ground. How's that for 'cruel and unusual'. I hope the appellate court plea fails and the jury throws the book at this little bastard. We need to start making examples of those who attack us.


  • Name: Peter Dauel
    Date posted: 2008-07-25 10:45 AM
    Hometown: Harper

    Comment:

    A really sad situation. Most people know that most young people's brains do not develop to do logical reasoning til about 21 years of age. Apparently the Judge's reasoning has not completely deveoped yet.


  • Name: Peter Dauel
    Date posted: 2008-07-25 10:43 AM
    Hometown: Harper

    Comment:

    A really sad situation. Most people know that most young people's brains do not develop to do logical reasoning til about 21 years of age. Apparently the Judge's reasoning has not completely deveoped yet.


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