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Story Updated : August 16, 2010 08:30:00 PM

Ninth Circuit: Marriages on Hold


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Without explanation, the U.S. court of appeals for the ninth circuit has granted a stay in the Proposition 8 case, yet again delaying the possibility of marriages for same-sex couples seeking to wed in California. 

The three-judge panel granted Prop. 8 supporters the stay of U.S. district judge Vaughn Walker's decision in the case, but it also expedited arguments in the appeal, which are scheduled for the week of December 6 in San Francisco. 

Chad Griffin, copresident of the American Foundation for Equal Rights, which organized the legal challenge to the 2008 ballot measure, told The Advocate his team will not appeal the ninth circuit's Monday order to the U.S. Supreme Court.

“Today’s order from the ninth circuit for an expedited hearing schedule ensures that we will triumph over Prop. 8 as quickly as possible," Griffin said in a statement. "Our Plaintiffs and our attorneys are ready to take this case all the way through the appeals courts to the United States Supreme Court.” 

Jennifer C. Pizer, Marriage Project director for Lambda Legal, said the ninth circuit's two-page ruling should not be read as a "substantive disagreement" with the merits of the case. "What this indicates is that the ninth circuit is going to give this methodical consideration," she said. "They see the weight of the issues and have not disagreed with any of Judge Walker's analysis."

The ninth circuit's decision to block marriages for same-sex couples also does not mean it has ruled on whether Prop. 8 supporters have actual standing to appeal Walker's decision.

The panel, composed of judges Edward Leavy, Michael Daly Hawkins, and Sidney Runyan Thomas, wrote that Prop. 8 proponents must include in their briefs to the court "a discussion of why this appeal should not be dismissed for lack of [standing]."

A spokesman for California attorney general Jerry Brown said his office would also not appeal the ruling, Metro Weekly reported late Monday.

Earlier this month Walker ruled that Prop. 8 violated the U.S. Constitution's guarantees of equal protection and due process. Many legal observers had expected the ninth circuit to deny a request for a stay in the case on well-established legal precedent. 

"We are very cognizant of the fact that many people wanted to get married as soon as possible, and that's why we so strongly opposed the stay," plaintiffs' attorney Ted Boutrous, who argued the case alongside lead attorneys Ted Olson and David Boies, told The Advocate. "But at the same time, had the stay not been entered, it may have been harder to get such an expedited briefing schedule in the case."

Another legal source, who declined to be named, said that had the ninth circuit ruled against a stay, an appeal by Prop. 8 supporters to the Supreme Court could have been harmful to Olson and Boies's highly strategical case. "When you have an important constitutional issue, as is the case here, you don’t want the first time it comes before the justices to be a high-pressure, high-speed situation," the source said. "You’d rather have it come on a full record and on a schedule where the court has time to consider the issues carefully.

"You don’t want this hitting their schedule when it's summer and they're on vacation," the source added.

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Reader Comments
  • Name: brad
    Date posted: 8/18/2010 2:18:11 AM
    Hometown: Hollywood

    Comment:

    I agree with Jonathan. Most of the talking heads who are against gay marriage look like they haven't gotten laid in about 30 years. There's a heavyset woman who's always on Larry King going on and on about traditional marriage, and whenever I see her I think to myself she's just bitter because no one has boinked her since the 80's.

  • Name: P.G. IOSZT
    Date posted: 8/18/2010 1:44:18 AM
    Hometown: CIUDAD AUTONOMA DE BUENOS AIRES

    Comment:

    IT IS VERY ODD, SAD THAT THE STATE AND ALSO THE COUNTRY WHICH ARE SAID TO BE THE FREEST LAND IN THE WORLD SHOULD SHOW SO LITTLE RESPECT TOWARDS GAY PEOPLE BY VOTING, RE-VOTING, PASSING LAWS AT OWN PARLIAMENT, SCHWARZENEGGER'S VETOING THEM, ORDERING RULINGS BY THE SUPREME COURT OF CALIFORNIA STATE, BLOCKADING LGBT RIGHTS BY MEANS OF A RIDICULOUS PROP. 8.- WHAT A NUISANCE! WHAT A SHAME! WHAT A MISHANDLE OF PEOPLE'S EXPECTATION! WHO THINKS IT APPROPRIATE TO PUT TO VOTE MINORITIES'S RIGHTS; IF SLAVERY HAD BEEN SUBMITTED TO A POLL IN 1863, THE USA WOULD STILL HAVE SLAVARY. MINORITY'S RIGHTS CANNOT BE THROWN INTO A PLEBISCITE. IN WHICH HEAD DOES IT FIT? BEAR THIS IN MIND: "THE REAL CIVILIZED SOCIETIES ARE THOSE WHICH PREVENT THEIR INHABITANTS FROM THE MOST OF SUFFERINGS, AND AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE". STILL, GOOD LUCK. (I AM A SUBSCRIBER OF ADVOCATE IN ARGENTINA)

  • Name: Jonathan
    Date posted: 8/17/2010 5:47:05 PM
    Hometown: Duluth, MN

    Comment:

    I've gotta say, I've really come around on this one. Early on, I was angry because I felt that the gay community has so many issues that are being ignored because of this. But the more I listened to the fear and ridiculous rants of 'the other side' (by the way, their 'sanctity of marriage' thing is bullshit. If that's the case, then let's outlaw divorce) the more I just got furious. The pro-8 people are an interesting lot though. It just makes me wonder why they're so fascinated by gay life/marriage - don't they have marriages of their own they should be celebrating? Generally I have found that those who have the most negative reactions to gay lives are those who don't have much going on in their own bedroom and feel the need to come into ours. And now these people want to ensure that GLBT people will never be happy by denying us marriage, and at the same time, still expect us to pay taxes so they can enjoy it? That buck stops here. That's why this is so important.

  • Name: Davlin Court
    Date posted: 8/17/2010 4:00:48 PM
    Hometown: Long Beach

    Comment:

    It's not necessarily bad news. The appellate justices agreed to an expedited hearing (Dec. 6) on Proposition 8 and they are focusing on the issue of standing. NBCLA Legal Analyst Royal Oaks said this may bode well for the proponents of same-sex marriage since the only person who has legal standing to appeal the Proposition 8 ruling is Governor Schwarzenegger and he's chosen not to appeal.

  • Name: Think about THIS!
    Date posted: 8/17/2010 2:09:08 PM
    Hometown: USA

    Comment:

    If any Prop 8 supporters are reading this (I sure hope they are) they would be wise to drop their appeal. Why? Because they are going to LOSE. They either lose just in CA, or they lose in their eventual appeal at the Supreme Court level, and THAT would mean they lost 50 states - the entire country - not just California. It's called a strategic loss. You've lost the battle, do you REALLY want to lose the war at this early stage of the game?

  • Name: Shannon
    Date posted: 8/17/2010 1:32:29 PM
    Hometown: Texas

    Comment:

    Apart for the attrocity that is American civil rights isses, this is a fine example of how our once great nation is taking an irreversable turn for the worse. We can no longer make policies! They're probably going to be back and forth on Prop 8 for years and no one will ever make a decision and stick with it. This kind of attitude will destroy us. The right thing to do is vote, and let it be done. WAIT! California already did that! So what's the problem? The people have spoken, gays can marry. DONE! Now let's move on already.

  • Name: Michael Bruce
    Date posted: 8/17/2010 12:54:34 PM
    Hometown: Riegelsville, PA

    Comment:

    Of all the legal scholars commenting on Judge Vaughn's decision that holds Prop. 8 unconstitutional (yay!), why didn't any of them see the benefits of putting a stay on same-sex marriage until the merits of the case (or the standing issue) are argued? Surely it doesn't come as a complete surprise that the panel decided on a stay. Why does the community feel blind-sided? Altho intellectually the decision is understandable and may in fact be beneficial, emotionally, it's still disappointing. Had we been forewarned, we could have prepared for the impact and celebrated the benefits of the stay, instead of feeling like we have to rationalize it after the fact. I just don't get it. We have the greatest legal minds in the country working for us, we have the passion, we have the law on our side, yet we can't disseminate information to our community about the range of possible outcomes and the pros and cons of each. What's wrong with that picture?

  • Name: CountryBoy
    Date posted: 8/17/2010 11:35:13 AM
    Hometown: MO

    Comment:

    I'm angry at the delay, but agree we need to get ALL our ducks in a row. If those supporting Prop 8 are unable to convince the Court they have 'standing'; their appeal will be tossed out. All this legal maneuvering puts us in a better position if/when this eventually gets to SCOTUS. HOWEVER; once the Court ruling IS made; let's hope there are no other 'stays' issued and that LGBT couples can again begin to marry, in California.

  • Name: Chuck Anziulewicz
    Date posted: 8/17/2010 9:47:14 AM
    Hometown: Spring Hill, West Virginia, USA

    Comment:

    I am absolutely heartbroken for all the Gay couples who were hoping to get married starting tomorrow, but in the long run I'm confident that fairness and justice will prevail. According to California political observer Brian Devine, "The Court specifically orders the Prop 8 proponents to show why this case should not be dismissed for lack of standing. Here’s a discussion of the standing issue. This is very good news for us. It shows that the Court has serious doubts about whether the Appellants have standing. Even better, the Court is expressing an opinion that its inclination is that the case should be dismissed. That being said, the panel that issued this Order (the motions panel) is not the same panel that will hear that case on the merits. The merits panel will be selected shortly before December 6th and we don’t know the three judges who will be on the merits panel. But this is a very good sign that the appeal could be dismissed on the ground of standing alone." So keep the faith.

  • Name: BobnFred
    Date posted: 8/17/2010 6:12:30 AM
    Hometown: Charlotte, NC

    Comment:

    The longer it takes to reach SCOTUS the better. If the 9th circuit decides that the prop 8 people have no standing then marriages can resume in CA and this particular case won't go any further. This is the best possible outcome because it will allow a substantial period for gay marriages to occur in one of the largest, most influential states. Public opinion, which is already moving in favor of equality, will become even more favorable. Hopefully, by the time it reaches SCOTUS, even Scalia won't be able to defend banning same-sex marriage.

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