Queers for Palestine?

I don't like the tarring of all anti-Israeli sentiment as anti-Semitic (most people who object to Israel's overbearing tactics, yet excuse Hamas and refuse to see Israel's need to protect itself are misled, not anti-Semitic), but I do agree with the general gist of Lucas' point; it is ironic, in the extremely non-amusing way, for gays to support violent bigots who wish them dead.

If I created the impression, Stephen, that I believe Israel incapable of committing war crimes or crimes against humanity, that impression is not correct. My disillusion as a gay man rests with the United Nations Human Rights Council which would not act to protect my rights and freedoms if I lived in a country where these were denied, and which does not act to protect the rights of gay men and women who do live in countries where these are denied and where being gay can result in persecution. I believe that the UNHRC is so fundamentally poisoned that however noble Justice Goldstone’s intentions may have been, the report, from the wording of the commission’s task, to the membership of the commission, to the report’s own doubts about the freedom of witnesses to testify without prior intimidation or subsequent victimization, make it for me a flawed document called into being by a Council that, like its predecessor and like its parent body, is a travesty.

It's ironic there are gays out there who support Palestinian Muslims but yet Muslims torture and kill gays and other people on a regular basis. Israeli Jews are gay friendly or at least tolerant. Another irony is that Jews, like most gays, are Liberal and voted for a Liberal president who does not support Israel and kisses Iranian/Palestinian butt.......I don't get it....

Queers for Palestine?? Palestinians=Muslim=supressors and murderers of gays...... Does anyone who's not a stupid fucking liberal see how this doesn't make sense??

It's also not just Richard Goldstone who has documented war crimes in Operation Cast Lead. Many Israeli soldiers have provided testimony to the group Breaking the Silence. The number of violations of the Geneva Conventions is truly stunning. This includes use of chemical weapons against civilians, deliberate attempts to block medical care to civilians, efforts to draw civilians into combat zones and open murder of civilians waving white flags. Banned weapons including white phosphorous and dense inert metal explosives were used. This operation, which killed over 1400 people who were mostly civilians, was launched in response to the death of a single Israeli. The sentiment I'm seeing here is just unbelievable, somehow believing that if, internally, Israel has some level of so-called "LGBT" (what a funny bullshit acronym anyway drawing together very different communities as somehow a single monolithic entity) rights, that somehow excuses their extreme crimes against humanity.

It's funny that you try to smear the Goldstone Report when Goldstone himself has shown nothing but affection towards Israel. He's a Jew who loves Israel and does not wish to see it continue to travel down the path it is taking. I'll lay out my basic viewpoint here so that I'm not misinterpreted: originally Zionism was a very positive movement, and a just response to oppression faced by Jews in Europe, and a progressive desire for Jews to become a normal nation after centuries of lacking just this. However, when the right-wing Revisionist Zionists, who openly proclaimed their admiration for the European fascists, set their sites on conquering by military force areas of Palestine in which Jews were not even the demographic majority, this is where the nationalism went horribly wrong. Today who controls Israel? It is the far-right. Avigdor Lieberman describes himself as the political heir to Jabotinsky. Netanyahu's father was an extremist who hung around with open fascists.

Morr, bchiyat. yes, these people should come to Israeli and the Palestinian areas and see for themselves but so should you. I know a transgender Israeli working with Hamas people on non-violent protests because they both don't agree with the settlers and the army. You also need to visit the territories and talk to Palestinians. It is not as black and white as you think.

Morr, bchiyat. yes, these people should come to Israeli and the Palestinian areas and see for themselves but so should you. I know a transgender Israeli working with Hamas people on non-violent protests because they both don't agree with the settlers and the army. You also need to visit the territories and talk to Palestinians. It is not as black and white as you think.

Morr, bchiyat. yes, these people should come to Israeli and the Palestinian areas and see for themselves but so should you. I know a transgender Israeli working with Hamas people on non-violent protests because they both don't agree with the settlers and the army. You also need to visit the territories and talk to Palestinians. It is not as black and white as you think.

For all the members of the lgbt community still believing Islam is the religion of peace, and a friend of the community, read the New York Magazine article by Matt McAllester entitled "The Hunted". It is dead on and support's Michael. To take a quote from the article "Killing gays is Halal", permissable under Islamic law, "Muslims get points in heaven for it." Our community needs to wake up and realize that Islam is not, has never been and will never be "friends" of the lgbt community. As I stated in my first comment Israel Yes, Islam No.