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Advocates Wary of Gillibrand DADT Plan


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New York senator Kirsten Gillibrand’s proposal to end funding for the enforcement of the military’s “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy is being met with caution by pro-repeal organizations in Washington.

“It's helpful to talk about cutting funding for ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’ discharges, but we must be strategic about when such a move would be made and now is premature,” said Aubrey Sarvis, executive director of Servicemembers Legal Defense Network.

Gillibrand is looking at adding an amendment to the government's overall budget during the budget resolution process, according to a spokesman for her office, which will be coming up for consideration in about six to eight weeks.

But at the moment Sarvis does not want to detract from the Senate Armed Services Committee, which will be examining the gay ban over the next couple months in a series of hearings and then deciding whether to address a policy change in this year's Defense Department authorization bill.

Second, Sarvis does not believe the votes yet exist in the Senate to pass such an amendment. SLDN worked with Gillibrand’s office last year to explore the possibility of placing a moratorium on discharges and investigations for the remainder of the 111th Congress.

“When we did our whip count, the most we got was 44 votes,” said Sarvis, adding that even with last week's supportive testimony from Adm. Mike Mullen and Defense secretary Bob Gates, he does not believe that an amendment would garner the necessary votes.

“The last thing we need is for the first vote on this policy in 17 years to fail,” he said.

Alex Nicholson, executive director of Servicemembers United, expressed similar reservations about disrupting the process that’s now taking place in the Senate Armed Services Committee.

“We want to make sure a vote on that would not foreclose pursuing a vote for full legislative repeal this year,” Nicholson said. “Moderate senators may not want to take a vote on the policy twice in 2010.”

A spokesman for Senator Gillibrand said she is weighing similar considerations to those being debated by advocates fighting to end the policy.

"The senator shares their objectives, but as she has done in the past, by raising alternatives, she expects to advance the debate toward full and immediate repeal," said Matt Canter.

Sarvis believes there's time for Gillibrand to explore the options as the Senate Armed Services Committee moves forward with gathering more testimony on “don’t ask, don’t tell.”

“She's looking for things to do that would be constructive, but at the end of the day, she’s not going to want to do anything that would be a drawback,” he said.

Sarvis added that SLDN might support such a tactic if some sort of measure is not included the DOD authorization bill, which lawmakers and LGBT advocates alike have agreed is the best vehicle for making a policy change.

“There will be time later in the year to add appropriations amendments,” he said.

Gillibrand first announced her proposal at a Human Rights Campaign fund-raiser last Saturday in New York City.

“Tonight, I am announcing that I plan to introduce an amendment to the budget that will bar the use of funds for the enforcement of this policy,” she said.

This article has been updated from a previous version.

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Reader Comments
  • Name: William Sharp
    Date posted: 2/23/2010 6:34:49 PM
    Hometown: Blytheville Arkansas

    Comment:

    I graduated from high school at the age of 18. Very afraid of going to the conflict in Vietnam. So I joined the Air Force as a lesser of the evils. June of 1968 till December of 1968 was my time served. I would have liked to have stayed in the service but was kicked out due to gay tendencies. Another member of the Air Force approched me for sex while we were both drunk. Off the base. He had been in the service for a number of years with no problems. He decided to report the event. We both were kicked out. He with an honorable and me with an undesireable. How humiliating to me and my family. If it was not for President Carter, I would still have that undesireable discharge. It was upgraded to a general discharge due to the blanket coverage of pardon for the ones who went to Canada to avoid the draft. Thank you Mr. Carter. I hope the leaders of our country now will have the balls to do what is right and do away with this witchhunt.

  • Name: Zoomie
    Date posted: 2/10/2010 10:58:24 AM
    Hometown: some AFB

    Comment:

    How nice that Sarvis can sit at SLDN and wait for a year or so for everything to run it's "proper" course. I love SLDN but we can't wait. I still get w/o dependent allowances. That's money I don't get for my partner EVERY MONTH. It's every day I don't get to talk about what I do off-duty because it happens to be with my same-sex partner. Of SEVEN years. Let the Senator go forward. No money for investigations/discharges means they don't heppen or are at least drastically diminished. Young Senators can be a breath of fresh air. I'm still proud to call Fiengold mine even if I don't live in WI anymore.

  • Name: brent
    Date posted: 2/9/2010 8:06:44 PM
    Hometown: royal oak michigan

    Comment:

    Let her! Funding the repeal is rolled into an appropriations bill. There are other Republican support for the repeal, so, create a separate bill to fund the repeal and ram it through congress. Show her just how truly isolated fools like her truly are.

  • Name: Greg from Denver
    Date posted: 2/9/2010 2:26:10 PM
    Hometown: Denver, CO

    Comment:

    Even though she is not my senator, I' so proud of Senator Kirsten Gillibrand. She is willing to stand up and be counted in a way that so few others are. I disagree that a loss on the floor would necessarily be a bad thing. If we had 44 senators come out for us it would make a huge statement and let us know who we had to replace and who we have to support. Many of us are refusing to support the Democratic party as a whole and just those who are actually there for us. Lets make that list. Lets work for those who work for us, and work against those against us.

  • Name: Brian
    Date posted: 2/9/2010 1:19:23 PM
    Hometown: Denver, CO

    Comment:

    "But at the moment Sarvis does not want to detract from the Senate Armed Services Committee, which will be examining the gay ban over the next couple months in a series of hearings" I believe this is a false assertion. The show trial is going to last at least 8 months and most likely much longer and will undoubtedly involve gruesomely homophobic 'testimony' of anal rape, fisting, rimming, etc. The GOP knows that if it can get the most explicit details front and center, they will kill any public support for ending DADT. They are experts at this.

  • Name: Andrew
    Date posted: 2/9/2010 10:29:29 AM
    Hometown: Sacramento, CA

    Comment:

    It's good to use something like this as a back-up plan, but I would let "the process" run its course. These guys feel "threatened" enough already. At the end of the day, it's better to let them take credit for the repeal and to feel like it was THEIR idea. And you just know that the GOP is gearing up to block repeal of DADT and to use it in the 2010 election. The freedom to serve openly will NEVER be repealed if it comes FROM the military. : )

  • Name: Brian
    Date posted: 2/9/2010 10:17:42 AM
    Hometown: Anaheim

    Comment:

    This Senator has guts. I am so sick and tired of gay rights 'leaders' who are afraid of their own shadow. Nothing will come if we sit and wait. Why not be backing her to the extreme and fighting with her? These gay leaders want to wait for something to come from this severly disfunctional and failed presidency. Forget it. Back this courageous ally and people like Boise and Olsen. Stop be so damn timid.



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