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Seth Meyers's Big Gay Saturday Night

SNL funnyman Seth Meyers talks to Advocate.com about last week's episode of Saturday Night Live -- the gayest episode in the history of the show, by some accounts. With touches including Justin Timberlake as Beyoncé's backup dancer and Snagglepuss crashing Weekend Update, it caused some bloggers to take offense ... but Meyers says it's just the sort of stuff that stemmed from many discussions about Prop. 8.
An Advocate.com exclusive posted November 19, 2008
Seth Meyers's Big Gay Saturday Night

With all the controversy surrounding same-sex marriage last week, gay Americans tuned into Saturday Night Live to see the political parody that would ensue. While we were expecting one, maybe two mentions, we were surprised to find a show that was almost entirely gay-themed. Some people were amused, and some, particularly several gay bloggers, accused SNL of hurting the movement by creating one-dimensional or stereotypical gay characters. We caught up with 35-year-old SNL head writer Seth Meyers in the middle of his read-through for this week's show, to ask him his response to those claims and also to find out how created the gayest episode of Saturday Night Live ever.

Advocate.com: I talked to Tina Fey recently, who credited you with most of her impersonation of Sarah Palin as you wrote the sketches. When you were writing those, were you thinking specifically about the moments that you were discussing gay rights or was it sort of, everything about Palin is hilarious?
Seth Meyers: We sort of hit everything. As I keep pointing out, everyone was paying so much attention to her that you could sort of play with the minutiae.

Fey is really reluctant to admit that she or you had anything to do with “taking Palin down,” but I think the public feels that you and she were very important in pointing out her hypocrisies in way that pundits were unable to do.
It was funny, because the vice-presidential debate, which was probably my favorite of the sketches, we also hit on Biden and that one slips by.

That was a weird moment for gay people in America when the candidate that they supported was forced into the corner and came out against us in some ways.
Yeah, when it came down to a yes or no answer, it was like very clearly no. [Laughs]

But I want to talk about last Saturday. Was it a conscious effort on your part to write a very gay episode?
This is the honest truth: It really wasn’t. That’s just not how our show works. We’re not a top-down show where we have a meeting on Monday and assign stuff. Everyone goes off and writes their own thing. Certainly it was more than I think anyone expected, but I think with what was in the air and with Proposition 8, I think different people had different ideas. Once that happens it just turns into a meritocracy on the pieces.

So were there even more sketches about this subject that didn’t make the show.
Not that many. For instance, Paul [Rudd] was a fan of one of our last scenes, “The Mechanic Bill,” and a couple of others. If you went piece by piece, each one had a reason for why it was in, and the reason would be boring.

Did you conceive the Snagglepuss sketch?
That is the thing where you have a new cast member, Bobby Moynihan, and one of the things he auditioned with was Snagglepuss. I can tell you, as a new cast member your radar is always up to find ways to get the stuff you brought with you on the air. As it turned out that was a pretty funny way to get it in. Because bringing Snagglepuss on Weekend Update was going to be a pretty tough sell unless there was some sort of in.

OK, so everyone comes back from writing and you are in a room, and I assume Paul Rudd is there and they are pitching their ideas ...
The way it works is that there is a read-through. There are about 45 pieces, and of those we pick about 12, and of those 12, about seven or eight went into the show.

Right, and so all of you come in the room to pitch the sketches, and is there a moment where you are like, Look, a lot of us seem to be doing a lot of gay sketches?
To some degree. Not to minimize, it but we are having the same issue this week with Thanksgiving. [Laughs] When you have to do 22 of these shows a year, sometimes you just do the biggest story or whatever everyone is talking about. I will say that it will be much harder with Thanksgiving because they will all look the same, where as with last week there were a lot of different looks.

Then you have “The Kissing Family Scene,” not a scene that anybody here considered to be about gay rights or gay themes in general. That was written for a previous episode earlier in the year, and that reached its destination because it was heightening a nonsexual, affectionate family. Against a backdrop of everything else we were doing, I guess some people took it to be about that.

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  • Name: Nick
    Date posted: 2009-04-19 1:27 AM
    Hometown: Rochester

    Comment:

    WOW you people are oversensitive. These comments were filled with ridiculous levels of stupidity. Especially the "hollywood liberals" making us camp and degrading us? I'm sure. You are so right, it"s clearly the conservatives that are out for our well-being. Not to mention, campy gays are clearly a made-up stereotype. That NEVER happens in real life. The only thing making gays look bad is when we throw hissy fits like this. SNL makes fun of everyone. And they have gay writers. The gay community needs to stop taking things so seriously.


  • Name: Jerry
    Date posted: 2008-11-29 12:16 PM
    Hometown: Chapel Hill NC

    Comment:

    I have to agree with the folks who say, "lighten up, it's comedy." I marched in the stinging rain and wind with lots of friends against the Prop 8 decision. Then we turned on SNL and loved that it was about us. ALL of the gay men I watched SNL with thought it was hilarious! Stereotypes are funny. There's a difference between the type of humor on SNL which Seth Meyers calls "sweet and silly" and the mean spirited hateful stuff you get from the bully in the school yard. I'll bet there are old people in your neighborhood who could use a friendly visit. Turn off your computer and your petty self-rigteousness and go out and do something good for someone else. You'll feel better. And the next time you watch a gay sketch on SNL you'll probably laugh.


  • Name: Kyle
    Date posted: 2008-11-24 11:41 AM
    Hometown: Birmingham

    Comment:

    Are you kidding me? Lighten up, it's a COMEDY SHOW. Laugh a little, don't always take yourselves so seriously.


  • Name: james
    Date posted: 2008-11-22 5:54 PM
    Hometown: new york city

    Comment:

    I certainly think SNL is homophobic. It relies on camp stereotypes to portray gay people. Note how SNL never shows a male couple holding hands or kissing, two things which reflect the reality of who we are. SNL is an example of how liberals in the entertainment industry continue to insult us, distorting our sexuality and playing to perceptions of us as camp "things" rather than people who crave to be in love.


  • Name: Mike
    Date posted: 2008-11-22 1:00 PM
    Hometown: Washington, DC

    Comment:

    Uh, excuse me, Corey Scholibo, but "I think for the most part the gay community liked the show"? WHAT? How dare you speak for me! I found this episode extremely insensitive and offensive. It was a real slap in the face after spending all day marching through the wind and rain at a Prop 8 protest here in DC to come home, flip on SNL and see exactly why people consider us second class citizens: because we're represented as two-dimensional stereotypes to be be laughed at and scorned. Shame on Scholibo and shame on SNL.


  • Name: junior
    Date posted: 2008-11-22 12:21 AM
    Hometown: New York City, NY

    Comment:

    I really am surprised to hear that people had a problem with that 'SNL' episode. I've heard gay comedians like Margaret Cho and others do similar jokes and everybody laughs. I thought the episode had a nice balance of jokes about gay culture (some more stereotyped, some less) although lesbians could have been represented more. I found many of the jokes to be plays on "what you see ain't what you get," which I think is an important lesson especially for the many straight people who watch 'SNL' to realize that gay identity even exists and to not deny it. I feel like some gay people need to be less sensitive and some straight people need to open their minds...


  • Name: Steve
    Date posted: 2008-11-21 9:07 PM
    Hometown: Baltimore

    Comment:

    I thought it was a funny episode and I didn't detect anything mean-spirited at all. In fact, I'm struck by how often Meyers uses the word "sweet" to describe the writing, because I got that sense last week as well, that the writers are actually quite gay friendly.


  • Name: Tim Hulsey
    Date posted: 2008-11-21 5:36 PM
    Hometown: Charlottesville, VA

    Comment:

    Corey Scholibo lets Myers and SNL off the hook much too easily. If SNL had been on the air in March of 1965, it would have commemorated the Selma-to-Montgomery voting rights march with a minstrel show. Last week's episode revealed how deeply reviled the gay and lesbian community is, even within the entertainment industry. In time, Myers and SNL will view their actions with shame and disgust.


  • Name: NY John
    Date posted: 2008-11-21 2:41 PM
    Hometown: NotSoRedneck, Tennessee

    Comment:

    My wife and I watched the show and finally changed the channel. Not because we were shocked or disgusted with the gay content, but merely because our general thoughts were "enough already". We came back later and watched the completion (thank God for TiVo) and it didn't help. I can understand SNL trying to push a cause (sorry Seth, it's more than coincidence), but it became so cliche and cartoonish, I think the message was lost among the tedium the sketches became.


  • Name: Dan Poirier
    Date posted: 2008-11-21 10:23 AM
    Hometown: Altadena

    Comment:

    The jail/prison rape joke scene had clever lines in it, and perhaps could be seen as a joke about homophobia. However, rape in any context is not funny. Continuing to laugh about it reinforces homophobia, and desensitizes our culture to the brutality of rape that occurs daily in our jails and prisons.


  • Name: Mike
    Date posted: 2008-11-21 12:57 AM
    Hometown: Los Angeles

    Comment:

    More anti-gay than the "gays in space" sketch? That was probably the most offensive I can think of.


  • Name: Philip R. Jenkins
    Date posted: 2008-11-20 10:24 AM
    Hometown: Wyandotte MI

    Comment:

    I watched Saturday Night Live last week and I wasn't insulted at all. I felt a great sense of relief that finally there was a mainstream show that wasn't paranoid about gays or gay issues. As a community we should look closely and think before we speak about what is insulting to gays. The show was way beyond the old 'Will and Grace' mentality. We shouldn't criticize SNL for putting on a gay friendly show when there are entire news networks out there that actively seek to oppress our community. SNL is on our side and made a significant breakthrough for the entire progressive community with one show.


  • Name: Kevin
    Date posted: 2008-11-19 11:08 PM
    Hometown: j@j.com

    Comment:

    Last Saturday was SNL's most anti-gay show ever.


  • Name: Kevin
    Date posted: 2008-11-19 11:07 PM
    Hometown: j@j.com

    Comment:

    Last Saturday was SNL's most anti-gay show ever.


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