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The RIAA's Joel Flatow Marries Music and Politics for Your Benefit

The RIAA's Joel Flatow Marries Music and Politics for Your Benefit


As an out lobbyist for the Recording Industry Association of America, Joel Flatow wrangles the biggest musical acts of the day to use their celebrity for good.

Joel Flatow, the general manager of West Coast operations for the Recording Industry Association of America, lobbies for legislation that benefits the music industry, which has undergone seismic shifts since most people stopped buying albums and CDs. But Flatow also uses his fat Rolodex to encourage musicians to use their celebrity for charitable causes, including LGBT rights. The out wheeler and dealer is now in Washington, organizing the 2013 Presidential Inaugural Charity Benefit for Musicians on Call, which brings live music to hospital patients; he snagged equality-minded Ke$ha to headline the Monday event. We recently spoke to Flatow about his career, the state of the music industry, and why the band fun. are his personal heroes.

The Advocate: Your job sounds exciting, but what exactly does it entail?
Joel Flatow: The Recording Industry Association of America represents the major record companies; we're an industry association. My specific role is general manager of West Coast operations, which means I'm the point of contact for RIAA here in California; politically, I do our lobbying for the state of California. I'm kind of the face of the music industry here and then I also run our artist and industry relations program, which has a keen eye to Washington D.C., and federal legislation.

What is one of the major issues you're working on? Is piracy still the biggest concern?
At RIAA, our issues are really to promote healthy business. We still, of course, fight the piracy fight. but I think you see an industry that's hugely adapted. Over 50% of our legitimate business is digital, which is pretty significant for any industry.

Everyone seems to be gravitating to Spotify. Do artists really get paid when you listen to music that way?
They do. They have negotiated deals, I'm not an expert on the deals, but it's a service that's licensed. It's watershed, and I think that's symbolic of where the industry has come. There are practically 500 different music services, and whether it's subscription services or streaming or iTunes, there's a plethora of new modes of getting music.

You're known to hook up political figures with artists. Is that part of your official job or just a personal interest?
Yes and yes. I feel very blessed to have developed artists' relationships for RIAA. There's the job side, which has to do with engaging artists in industry and business issues, and there's the personal side, which is being able to engage artists in causes ultimately that they care about. I feel very blessed to have extracurricular causes and being able to utilize my relationships with artists and their managers.

You were involved in getting artists to the nominating conventions this fall?
Yes, that was on the job side of life. For instance, for both conventions we at RIAA partnered with musicians for Musicians on Call, which is an amazing organization that brings live music to hospital bedsides. We had a presence at both conventions to support On Call.

What artists appeared at the conventions?
For our specific events, Common was a performer at Charlotte [for the Democratic National Convention[ and Jermaine Dupri did an incredible DJ set. I know Mary J. performed there and a variety of other artists. Gavin DeGraw performed in Tampa, specifically for Musicians On Call.


So usually these performances benefit charity?
The charities are the focus, in fact. When you have critical mass and the eyes of the nation to bring attention to worthy causes, it makes sense. In my personal time, I'm really honored to be on the Trevor Project's board and AIDS Project Los Angeles. And be involved in the NOH8 campaign. Those are labors of love.

Have you helped hook up organizations like the Trevor Project with artists?
Yes, and it's such a great honor. Trevor, because of their cause and the space they occupy in suicide prevention and crisis intervention, taps into a lot of feeling and emotion. It's a beautiful ask to make and a reflection of the artists' themselves who get involved. Recently, we had an event in New York that honored MTV and having just read the most incredible statement and treatise on gay rights advocacy by the band fun., by Jack Antonoff, specifically, they really felt like a perfect fit for Trevor. Their manager said it took them 30 seconds to decide to do the event. They are definitely one of my heroes right now. They articulate that you can't be passive about this as straight allies.

Are there some artists who are reticent about lending their name to political events or causes?
Yes. I think it's actually become a smaller proportion, and there's a difference between getting involved in the pure politics and getting involved in a cause. I think you'll see from the artists that they want to get involved in something they believe in and they see they have a bully pulpit. It's a beautiful thing; you see the great majority of artists getting involved in causes. The pure politics; that's very personal, some do and some don't.

Artists like Beyonce and Jay-Z don't hide their support of President Obama.
Yeah, last year was a highly political year, and artists on both sides saw a lot of stake.

You helped make the Fleetwood Mac moment happen at Clinton's 1993 inauguration happen, right?
I was very honored to help make the Fleetwood Mac moment and assemble the group on the White House lawn [watch the group's performance below]. That song ["Don't Stop (Thinking About Tomorrow")] really became the anthem of that race.

Working for the RIAA, can you outwardly support the Democrats or the Republicans?
No, I cannot. But in my personal life as a gay man, I feel we're at a watershed moment with the mix of politics and culture. I've been really lucky my career has been where the two meet and it's really a study of which has more influence -- policy and politics or culture and entertainment -- and it's really both. We're at this incredible moment where we have a president who embraced gay marriage and is advocating for it actively, but you have a cultural moment with Frank Ocean and his really personal statement, and a hip-hop community that's embracing that and looking ahead. It's not to say we're there yet that and there isn't a lot to overcome in that community. But people like Jay-Z and Russell Simmons support Frank. It's a cultural moment; it's cool now to support gay rights and gay marriage. That's important. But it wouldn't have been possible without heroes like Melissa Etheridge, who we can never underappreciate. As well as Madonna, Cher, and Gaga.

So you don't think Frank Ocean is an anomaly?
That's a fair question. I think it was such a personal moment [when he wrote about a same-sex relationship] and because it was so personal and raw and honest, that's why his whisper caused a ripple. It was a singular moment but also a resonant one in that others immediately tweeted about it and embraced it. I think that will embolden others.

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