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As Ellen Goes, So Goes the Nation

When Ellen DeGeneres and Portia de Rossi got married in California in August, there were no protests, no career fallout, and no media backlash, just congratulations from all.
From The Advocate  October 7, 2008
As Ellen Goes, So Goes the Nation

It was an archetypal People celebrity wedding featuring two of the beautiful people, one in pants and the other in a gown, and a dreamy setting with flowers, champagne, candlelight, the whole romantic nine yards. No expense spared, no fabulous purveyor left unmentioned. (Mark’s Garden! Zac Posen! Neil Lane!) The only thing missing: a groom.

But People hardly noticed.

And that’s what was most amazing about the August 16 marriage of Ellen DeGeneres and Portia de Rossi: People and other mainstream celebrity news sources didn’t treat the event much differently than they would, say, the arrival of Brangelina’s next children. CNN.com did headline the word “marry” in scare quotes, but the blogosphere outcry forced the site to make a quick edit. Other than that there seemed to be no backlash from the mainstream media or public.

What was once California dreaming has turned into a Golden State reality, and leading the way down the aisle -- as she has, so to speak, for the past decade of gay progress -- is DeGeneres.

She wasn’t the first celesbian (k.d. lang, Melissa Etheridge, and Chastity Bono were public about their sexual orientation before she was), but Ellen’s coming-out was certainly the most heralded. Who can forget the cover of Time magazine in 1997 with the headline “Yep, I’m gay”? The very acknowledgment of that fact was news and even warranted a full hour on Oprah. DeGeneres then turned her eponymous TV show character into a lesbian, coming out by sharing a kiss with guest star Laura Dern. And offscreen she began unabashedly parading her relationship with actor Anne Heche up and down red carpets.

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  • Name: Jean Claude
    Date posted: 2008-09-29 6:54 AM
    Hometown: AFRICA

    Comment:

    Hi! We beg the world to understand that God's name is not a common name as many thought. that is why the cities Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed. Yes, liberty is good but let every body think about the kind of liberty that the government is giving gays and lesbians. That is why we find ourselves under cures because of the leadership's policy. I urge to whoever that contributed positively to the issue of Hellen and Portia. God is watching over you and He wants you to repent so that you can live. God is not a cartoon as many think... May God forgive your their generation and families for pouring the cup of curse upon them. Hellen and Portia have to repent. And all the lesbians and gays too. No other deals.


  • Name: Bruce Bennett
    Date posted: 2008-09-28 10:31 PM
    Hometown: Long Island, NY

    Comment:

    May God have mercy on these sodomites and may they discover what true love is: a relationship with Jesus Christ. Judgment day will be especially cruel to those who paraded their sin in public and caused many "little ones" to stumble. Peace and Love come only from the Christ who calls homosexuality an abomination. Repent and receive Christ as Lord and Savior and he will change your heart. By telling you the truth I am showing you love, those who support this sin are lying to you about how "chic" or "cool" it is.


  • Name: Anastasia
    Date posted: 2008-09-25 9:47 AM
    Hometown: Moscow, Russia

    Comment:

    Only the best wishes for Ellen and Portia!Big THANK YOU from another part of the planet...


  • Name: Larry
    Date posted: 2008-09-23 1:50 PM
    Hometown: San Francisco

    Comment:

    Wasn't it Emma Thompson who shared that great kiss with Ellen on her sitcom?


  • Name: Berliner Mädel
    Date posted: 2008-09-21 3:09 PM
    Hometown: Berlin

    Comment:

    Hey, it was not such an easy thing to marry for them. Go and read what fanatic chrisitans write on Ellen´s website. Intolerance all over. What a shame! So not congrats all over.


  • Name: Tim
    Date posted: 2008-09-18 6:48 PM
    Hometown: Bismarck, ND

    Comment:

    We gay men need a wedding between Michael Phelps and his boyfriend. ( Yeah, I know that is just wishful thinking) My Mother is a big Ellen fan and she never really talked about the gay issue with me until Ellen got married. Mom never had any daughters but she now has her foot on my six for me to to walk down the isle.


  • Name: Meg
    Date posted: 2008-09-18 5:17 PM
    Hometown: Tampa Bay, FL

    Comment:

    Not only has she not suffered the slings and arrows of discontent, she will be the face of CoverGirl in January! So why is it okay that our neighbors think Ellen and Portia should be able to get married and we (my partner of 12 years and I) shouldn't? The answer is, they don't...only the loudmouth religious right who are more interested in making you afraid of SOMETHING, is still beating that drum to the thousands of Americans who still 'need' to be afraid of SOMETHING. VOTE!! VOTE!! VOTE!!


  • Name: Larisa S
    Date posted: 2008-09-18 4:30 PM
    Hometown: Seattle, WA

    Comment:

    To be perfectly fair, George Takei and Brad Altman do not have the kind of star power that Ellen has. Have you seen either of them on the cover of any news magazine or mainstream magazine in the last year? Are either of them a spokesperson for a major credit card or product? It's not about them being male, it's about the fact that if People put them on the cover, the general reading public would say "who is that?"


  • Name: Mark
    Date posted: 2008-09-17 10:36 AM
    Hometown: Tampa

    Comment:

    Robin said: "Two famous gay men getting married would not get the same reception in People magazine!" You got that right. Let's see if George Takei and Brad Altman's over-the-top wedding gets cover-story notice...anywhere.


  • Name: ann-marie
    Date posted: 2008-09-17 10:03 AM
    Hometown: roswell ga

    Comment:

    Ellen and Portia remind us of who we are: the only mammals with a refined capacity to love one another. It doesn't matter which others we love. The important thing is THAT we LOVE. If we could only stop trying to regulate that, we'd all be in a better place...


  • Name: Linda Duggins
    Date posted: 2008-09-16 5:48 PM
    Hometown: Turner, Oregon

    Comment:

    I lobbied in the 1970's during the Anita Bryant era. I strongly disagreed with her, but her negative campaign, mobilized our community. She became a blessing in disguise. The 1980's were not easy when radical Christians (who were not acting very Christ like) spewed angry fearful words blaming gays for spreading HIV and the AIDS crisis. They ignored in Africa it was more widespread in the non gay community. When the media began introducing people of color roles they were often demeaning. In early Pride parades the cameras swung to the most outrageous among us to cast a shadow on the GLBT community. It is true society teaches female couples are more socially acceptable than a male couple. Is that the right? No! But to gain ground for any minority group it is a process that takes time. We have to begin with conversations and programs like Ellen have achieved that goal. Congratulations Ellen and may the rest of us continue working toward equal rights for all GLBT people.


  • Name: Sally
    Date posted: 2008-09-15 11:08 PM
    Hometown: Portland

    Comment:

    Hey to Helen and Portia....Helen is the MOST brilliant comediane in the world. Brilliant because she is naturally funny and doesn't have to be vulgar to get a laugh. I think most every one is genuinely in admiration of her...she makes us all laugh...gay or straight. Portia is the absolute in beauty, and I am sure she is equal in talent and creativity. I am a 'boomer', straight, married. I know that all creation with free agency has the right to choose, but the definition of 'marriage' is still the union between a man and a woman. Changing that is like changing the definition of food to include the plate. You can have both together, but they aren't the same. Having legal rights jointly is definitely agreed as being appropriate and even necessary in our legalistic country. We will all be held accountable for our choices and we all have our road to travel....same street, different turns. Let's just be clear on definitions and agree to respect each other's choices. Namaste'


  • Name: Rosalyn Teplitz
    Date posted: 2008-09-13 6:14 PM
    Hometown: Los Angeles,CA 90034-1158

    Comment:

    Dear Ellen: I stronly approve and aways like you because your not afraid to stand up to the jerks who don't like what the Glbt people are doing. I believe that all of us have the right to pick who we love! What are jerks who don't approve of what the GLBT people are bother them. If you don't approve or believe what someone's lifestyle is than stay a way. Good luck to both of you. I miss your program but I list to KPFK and IMRU at 7:00 clock. Sincererly; Rosalyn Teplitz


  • Name: Robin
    Date posted: 2008-09-12 7:57 PM
    Hometown: Chevy Chase, Maryland

    Comment:

    Two women having sex is every straight man's fantasy. Lesbian sex is acceptable in the straight media so I am not surprised that People magazine had a cover story on Ellen and Portia getting married. Two famous gay men getting married would not get the same reception in People magazine!


  • Name: WHYJASONWHY
    Date posted: 2008-09-11 11:22 PM
    Hometown: Saskatoon

    Comment:

    PLEASE tell me that you are not the same jason who is constantly spouting off about the liberal bisexual double standard on towleroad! Find something else to worry about! This alledged "double standard" is perhaps the least important gay issue ever to exist. There is no double standard, and if there was one, it would fall firmly befind our rights to marry, adopt, serve in the military, be free from discrimination and thousands of other issues in importance. Good for Ellen and Portia, and GREAT for people just shut up already jason, this is progess no matter how you look at it. If your not the same jason, sorry for the vicious rant, but your still wrong.


  • Name: Bosie
    Date posted: 2008-09-11 3:21 PM
    Hometown: long Beach

    Comment:

    BRAVO! BRAVO!....I WAS IN MY LATE TEENS WHEN ELLEN CAME OUT...AND I FELT MY WORLD TURNING UPSIDE DOWN...AND I LOVED IT...now that I'm about to turn 29yo...I still see her as a role model ...I wish Ellen&Portia the best...Thank You Ellen, for what you did in my life...One day, it will be my turn to get married YAY!


  • Name: Mari
    Date posted: 2008-09-11 11:26 AM
    Hometown: NH

    Comment:

    I don't know, Jason, I suppose that George and Brad will be the male couple to get the People coverage. So we'll see what happens in next week's issue. Remember, they've gotta be across-the-board celebs, not just famous to the GLBT community. People readers don't want to go "who?" when they see the cover. Meanwhile, I won't consider it "acceptance" until they're calling Ellen and Portia "Generossi" or some stupid hybrid name like that. ;)


  • Name: jason
    Date posted: 2008-09-11 9:48 AM
    Hometown: los angeles

    Comment:

    Sorry to say this but I'm sick of Ellen and the publicity she receives. She's the straight community's "acceptable lesbian". Note how male-male couples never get the same sort of publicity in the liberal media. I mean, People magazine would hardly give front page coverage to two men getting married, would it? The liberal media is displaying a bias by giving preference to female-female over male-male.


  • Name: Lani
    Date posted: 2008-09-11 1:50 AM
    Hometown: Los Angeles

    Comment:

    Very happy for Ellen and Portia. Even though I'm not old enough to remember a time when there weren't any GLBT folk in the public eye, it still surprises me that we can have Ellen and Portia showing pictures of their wedding to millions of people and it gets widespread applause and cheers of congratulations. p.s. I have minor quibble with your article: Ellen did not share a kiss with Laura Dern in the Ellen episode. They only hugged.


  • Name: Terrie Belmont
    Date posted: 2008-09-10 6:20 PM
    Hometown: Umatilla, Fl

    Comment:

    I am just soooo happy for Ellen and Portia. When I saw the clips of their wedding on her show, I was moved to tears as it was so beautiful and you could just see the love in their eyes for each other. Unfortunately, I live in Florida where there is no allowance for gays to marry or even have the benefits that straight couples do. So, all I can say is....Bravo and congrats to Ellen and Portia. I hope the love that radiates from the both of you lasts forever and ever... Maybe someday we can all have the same benefits that hetero married couples do. One can only dream and hope we all live to see the day.


  • Name: Barb
    Date posted: 2008-09-10 5:39 PM
    Hometown: Seaside

    Comment:

    Bravo, Ellen! How difficult it must be to be such a public figure with no privacy. Ellen handles her life with such grace. To see mainstream America give her a standing ovation on her show after her wedding is pure joy. Imagine, happines for another person's wedding! How natural. How normal. Thank you, Ellen for hanging in there to help all of us move closer to equality. Perceptions are so important, especially to those unaquainted with any gay or lesbian folk. Thanks for challenging those perceptions each day. And, congratulations on marrying your beautiful bride! Best wishes for your lives together. Peace and Love.


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